# Where is the cold and snow I was promised?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 11, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198 "2015-12-11T20:38:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/41 "2015-12-12T16:08:32Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> The poor deprived OP can console himself by reading up on [major winter storms](http://www.erh.noaa.gov/lwx/winter/storm-pr.htm#Noreasters) in the D.C. area (they’ve been getting more common in recent decades) and living happy fantasies about the fun commute that will result from the next one.
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> [A history of disastrous snow storms in the D.C. area - WTOP News](http://wtop.com/winter-2015/2015/01/history-disastrous-snow-storms-d-c-area/)

Oh, I’ve been hearing about them for a few years. The firm I work for is headquartered in DC — I worked in the LA office for several years before transferring out here. The thing is, we in LA were always making fun of the DC office because they seemed to have “snow days” where people just worked from home at the slightest sign of snow. Now, I’m hoping to be taking advantage of that.

“Mmm, looks like there might be a slight dusting out. Guess I’ll be forced to stay home and sit in my recliner with my laptop, the fireplace going, and the cats romping about the house. Woe is me!”

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**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/42 "2015-12-12T16:29:28Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Oh, I’ve been hearing about them for a few years. The firm I work for is headquartered in DC — I worked in the LA office for several years before transferring out here. The thing is, we in LA were always making fun of the DC office because they seemed to have “snow days” where people just worked from home at the slightest sign of snow. Now, I’m hoping to be taking advantage of that.
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> “Mmm, looks like there might be a slight dusting out. Guess I’ll be forced to stay home and sit in my recliner with my laptop, the fireplace going, and the cats romping about the house. Woe is me!”

It’ll come. DC is kind of ridiculous with the closings, but that’s in part because the commuter range covers some pretty wide ground, including areas that get serious snow.

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/43 "2015-12-12T16:54:27Z")

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The Northeast had two of the shittiest winters in my memory the last two years (historic cold and snow). I’ll take 60 degree days in December thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/44 "2015-12-12T16:58:46Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> I live in Maryland, and have to say Fuck your snow! it sucks! SOOOO glad it will be warm this weekend!

Me too. I’m trying hard not to hit people who whine about lack of snow when we’ve had almost a decade of winters with way way above normal snowfall in a row. Fortunately, only a handful are insane enough to whine rather than enjoy the unlikely gift of a warm December.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/45 "2015-12-12T17:16:26Z")

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When my wife moved from the DC suburbs to the Chicago area to be with me, her family all gave her shit about how cold it’d be out here and the snow, etc. Since then, DC keeps having record car-burying snowfalls while the Chicago winters have been on the milder side. That’ll learn 'em.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/46 "2015-12-12T17:41:24Z")

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Looking out my window, we’ve had a dusting of snow overnight, and there are still some flurries filtering down. All the roofs are white with about an inch, but since it is barely cold enough, the pavement is just wet. Still, snow everywhere. Nanny-nanny-boo-boo! 😛

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/47 "2015-12-13T00:42:45Z")

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I seem to recall that last December was pretty un-snowy and not terribly cold, so don’t get too upset yet. Last January is when everything went to hell in a handbasket.

> [@Asimovian](#):
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> “Mmm, looks like there might be a slight dusting out. Guess I’ll be forced to stay home and sit in my recliner with my laptop, the fireplace going, and the cats romping about the house. Woe is me!”

I am so going to miss my fireplace this year (new place, no fireplace).

But I’ve still got the comfy chair and the cats, so all is well. And I’ve contemplated buying an electric “fireplace”.

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**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/48 "2015-12-13T00:53:09Z")

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We had a snow flurry here in godforsaken Beaver County PA back in October. I don’t need or want any more. Ever.

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**Author:** ![jerry\_smissingfinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e56c9b/32.png) [@jerry\_smissingfinger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jerry_smissingfinger)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/49 "2015-12-13T01:05:21Z")

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it’s 75 deg. here windows open:)

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**Author:** ![Honey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/honey/32/5074_2.png) [@Honey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Honey)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/50 "2015-12-13T06:07:52Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> On a serious note, I didn’t know that was why snow comes later here, so thanks for that.
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> How the hell is anyone ever supposed to get a white Christmas?

Bah. White Christmases are over-rated. Bring on the brown Christmas I say. 😛

Snow/cold makes me sad. You wouldn’t want me to be sad, _would you_? 😉

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/51 "2015-12-13T17:02:38Z")

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We didn’t have Winter last year. This year it’s pretty warm too. We might – _might_ – get snow Christmas Eve and Christmas. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/52 "2015-12-13T17:09:30Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Fortunately, only a handful are insane enough to whine rather than enjoy the unlikely gift of a warm December.

I’ve been told by quite a few locally that my “insanity” will only last until around February. Given that I’ve never had to drive in icy conditions, that might well turn out to be true. But no one that knows me questions that I really and truly enjoy cold weather, if not the elements that come with it.

> [@Honey](#):
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> Snow/cold makes me sad. You wouldn’t want me to be sad, _would you_? 😉

I mean, not really, of course. But we’ve all got to make sacrifices for the greater good sometimes. 😃

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/53 "2015-12-13T18:17:26Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> Me too. I’m trying hard not to hit people who whine about lack of snow when we’ve had almost a decade of winters with way way above normal snowfall in a row. Fortunately, only a handful are insane enough to whine rather than enjoy the unlikely gift of a warm December.

But think of the poor starving ski areas!

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/54 "2015-12-13T18:42:05Z")

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Winter is supposed to start in a week. So why is it 78° in here?

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/55 "2015-12-13T22:34:15Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Now, I know some of you are thinking that I’m going to jinx it by even raising the issue. To which I say, I DAMN WELL HOPE SO! That’s exactly my goal. Don’t like it? You can throw a snowball at me, as soon as that becomes an option.
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> Where’s the snow, dammit?

If only! I think I’m the one who jinxed it by posting in another thread a little while ago about how much I loved winter and how I was looking forward to it. Now here I am in the proverbial Great White North and it’s practically shirt-sleeve weather. Tomorrow’s forecast is even worse – it would be “cool” if it was June instead of mid-December.

Major part of the reason is a strong El Nino that is really wrecking things for us winter lovers. There’s a mini-keg of Heineken in the garage that I got about a week ago thinking that the weather is bound to turn cold any day now. I just hope it gets cold enough to crack the thing open sometime before spring! ☹

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**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/56 "2015-12-14T01:50:38Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Given that I’ve never had to drive in icy conditions,

Oh lord! There’s your problem.

Most of the rest of the country likes to think the MidAtlantic region’s drivers can’t drive in the snow. The real problem is the combination of some of the worst traffic in the nation and weather that tends to hover at sleet / freezing rain / ice, not snow.

The difference is significant. During [Carmageddon](http://wtop.com/winter-2015/2015/01/history-disastrous-snow-storms-d-c-area/)storm of 2011 the snow hit just as rush hour began. In the end thousands of people just abandoned their cars on the highways and walked home. Half hour commutes lasted 8-10 hours, if lucky. And it wasn’t anyone’s fault, really. It had been a tough snowstorm to predict and the feds screwed up letting out workers at the wrong time, but no-one expected a sudden storm dumping a couple inches of sleet and snow each hour, including Thunder Snow.  
[This storm we covered in 2014 on the beltway in PG County is not atypical of a DC storm…](https://youtu.be/ln4azmP6o8Q?list=PLUppTyzBwIEBBqJvs0w0B7BkY_D4A6DI4)

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/57 "2015-12-14T01:59:10Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Even THEY don’t have any snow forecast for the next 10 days!

Yes but there’s probably still some snow from last year. Go for the snow, stay for the wings.

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**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/58 "2015-12-14T04:27:09Z")

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Well, I rotated my mattress and put on the electric mattress pad this weekend. That’s got to do something!!

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/59 "2015-12-14T11:53:37Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> If only! I think I’m the one who jinxed it by posting in another thread a little while ago about how much I loved winter and how I was looking forward to it.

Note to self: Get **wolfpup** to speak eagerly about the glories of snow and cold every November.

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/60 "2015-12-14T12:32:38Z")

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> [@gigi](#):
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> Well, I rotated my mattress and put on the electric mattress pad this weekend. That’s got to do something!!

I did mine a few weeks back. We did have a few nights that were cool enough that I enjoyed turning on the mattress pad to take the chill off the sheets. 😃

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