# Where is the cold and snow I was promised?

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 11, 2015, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198 "2015-12-11T20:38:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/61 "2015-12-15T04:27:23Z")

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Jesus effing Christ…I live in Westwood and it’s about 35 with the wind chill.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/62 "2015-12-15T06:13:59Z")

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Just to follow up, I have never been this cold and I am 3 miles from the Pacific. Have to blast the heater even though itll kill my sinuses.

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**Author:** ![Wednesday\_Evening](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b2d939/32.png) [@Wednesday\_Evening](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wednesday_Evening)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/63 "2015-12-15T17:53:07Z")

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Part of the reason that we temporarily relocated to Connecticut (from California) for the last 4 months of this year was to have the kids experience at least part of a real winter. The normal first snowfall around here is often around the middle of November. Last year it snowed on Halloween.

There has been no snow here yet and none anticipated in the 10 day forecast. We return to CA in two weeks and the kids will be really disappointed if there is no snow before then. ☹

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/64 "2015-12-15T18:06:47Z")

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> [@Wednesday\_Evening](#):
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> Part of the reason that we temporarily relocated to Connecticut (from California) for the last 4 months of this year was to have the kids experience at least part of a real winter. The normal first snowfall around here is often around the middle of November. Last year it snowed on Halloween.
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> There has been no snow here yet and none anticipated in the 10 day forecast. We return to CA in two weeks and the kids will be really disappointed if there is no snow before then. ☹

You see? You’re exactly the kind of people I’m concerned about. I’m thinking of the children!

(Seriously, that does suck. No chance you can extend the trip?)

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**Author:** ![stillownedbysetters](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/41988e/32.png) [@stillownedbysetters](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stillownedbysetters)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/65 "2015-12-15T19:25:56Z")

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“Please come to Denver for the snowfall…”

We got 10 inches of the white stuff last night. Yowza!

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/66 "2015-12-18T20:36:30Z")

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The Weather Channel (which allows you to see 15 days on the 10-day forecast, for some reason) is giving me a decently cool weekend, but then nothing lower than 53 degrees as a high (including a LOT of 60+ days and even a 71 degree day) between now and New Year’s Day.

Additionally, the Weather Channel had an article posted today essentially showing more confidence in it being warmer than usual out here. It included these gems:

> [@The Weather Channel](#):
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> “The bulk of the evidence suggests that the November/December pattern will persist into at least the first half of January, with below-normal temperatures being confined to the West and unusually mild weather continuing in the East,” wrote Dr. Todd Crawford, WSI chief meteorologist, in their outlook released Friday.
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> Crawford said there is now “increasing doubt that a sustained cold pattern will ever set up across the Northeast this winter,” based on the latest forecast guidance.

I want a refund.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/67 "2015-12-18T20:44:39Z")

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We finally got some snow the other day. Less than 7 inches, but it’s something. It’s currently 13F and melting pretty good. It’s supposed to warm up to the 30’s for the next several days so our snow won’t last long.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2015, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/68 "2015-12-18T22:10:02Z")

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I grew up near Philadelphia. We never expected snow until mid-January. Hardly ever shows up.

You will be quite surprised very soon. My sister lives near Baltimore. (I’m flying there Sunday). She’s an attorney and was on a case two years ago which took her to Minneapolis four times over the winter. She was delayed over a day in travel due to snow each time. WHY, you may ask? There was 4 times the amount of snow in Baltimore than there was in Minneapolis that year. BWI was the one closing runways and postponing the flights!

So, stay tuned. But it looks like no snow for you this holiday.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/69 "2015-12-19T00:46:07Z")

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See, I was going to ask if it was any better, since we actually got back to normal temps down here in Arkansas, after it was in the 70s not long ago. We’re actually cold enough that my heaters can’t fully make up the difference–the first time that’s happened this year.

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**Author:** ![Count\_Blucher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Count\_Blucher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Count_Blucher)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/70 "2015-12-19T01:34:43Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> Now, I’m hoping to be taking advantage of that.

I’m awfully sorry. According to the best models, the 5 cities that have to best chance for snowfall to drop that will be/stay down for a White Christmas are:

Minneapolis, Denver, Milwaukee, Detroit, and Buffalo.

\*\*“Before I draw nearer to that 5-Day forecast to which you point,’ said Scrooge, `answer me one question. Are these the Weather Patterns of the things that Will be, or are they Forecasts of things that May be, only.”

Still the Ghost of Joe Nolan, heavy with Locks and Chains, pointed downward to the Weather Map by which it stood.

"Men’s courses will foreshadow certain ends, to which, if persevered in, they must lead,’ said Scrooge. `But if the courses be departed from, the ends will change. Say it is thus with the Weather Patterns that you show me…!'\*\*

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**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\
**Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/71 "2015-12-19T02:07:27Z")

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I’m going to visit family in Florida over Christmas, which is usually a descent into weather that’s between 65F-75F for the high. Sometimes 78F.

Stickier and warmer than I’m used to, but livable.

Not this year.

Goddamn 85F and humid predicted during my stay.

I will be staying in my room with the window unit AC and not coming out, because of course no one has a pool.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/72 "2016-01-17T20:15:25Z")

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Weather Underground is currently predicting up to a foot and a half starting Friday morning.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/73 "2016-01-17T20:21:40Z")

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Strike that. They’ve reduced the predicted total to a foot, max.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/74 "2016-01-17T20:42:48Z")

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While we did get some sub-freezing temperatures, it looks like Winter is giving us a miss this year too.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/75 "2016-01-17T20:48:57Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Strike that. They’ve reduced the predicted total to a foot, max.

Snow is like football. Best viewed on the television, not live.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [January 18, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/76 "2016-01-18T14:00:59Z")

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4F here this morning with a windchill advisory and temps not forecast to get back above freezing until Sunday. January could go into the books as colder than normal, though probably not in the Polar Express/Arctic Triangle realm they were yammering about the last two winters.

Snowfall has been below normal, which I am not unhappy about.

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**Author:** ![quiltguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/e47774/32.png) [@quiltguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quiltguy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/77 "2016-01-19T18:10:24Z")

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It was a bit “brisk” here in Philly during my morning walk, heading TO breakfast was a great incentive though. Chill factor in the single digits, but I was bundled up enough so only my mustache froze over. Delightfully sunny now, but will cloud up, leading to a predicted first snow of the Winter, due Friday evening. The snow scare buying will begin today, we all know how the weather people are in cahoots with the grocery store chains. I’m already stocked-up. Gonna’ start a pot of beef/barley soup, anyone interested?

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/78 "2016-01-19T18:19:22Z")

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> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> Strike that. They’ve reduced the predicted total to a foot, max.

It’s saying 1-2 feet for my neck of Maryland for Friday through Saturday.

For those of you in the DC area (and yes, I know how ridiculously ignorant this question is), does the Metro ever shut down over snow? And if so, how bad would it have to get? I realize it’s unlikely, but I’m a newbie and know nothing about how hard it would be getting home if things get bad during the day.

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**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/79 "2016-01-19T18:28:54Z")

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Above ground portions of Metro have shut down during heavy weather events.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2016, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-cold-and-snow-i-was-promised/740198/80 "2016-01-20T15:18:55Z")

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Now watch the storm track change over the next 2 days and leave our OP high and dry. Or just cold and wet…

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