# Where is the excitement for Hillary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 26, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925 "2015-05-26T23:52:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![LinusK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/258eb7/32.png) [@LinusK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LinusK)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/1 "2015-05-26T23:52:07Z")
She seems like the inevitable candidate (yes, I know the media will make every effort to create a contender, but who is a serious threat to her?) But - and please tell me if I’m wrong here - I’m not seeing a lot of excitement about her. Can someone please tell me either (1.) the lack of excitement won’t be a problem for her, or (2.) or that people are excited, but I just don’t know about it? ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/2 "2015-05-27T00:08:23Z")
I’m lukewarm. I really don’t think too well of her (unlike Warren, who would be a far better choice). But, after W. I will never willingly vote Republican again. (There are local races where Republicans have run unopposed.) That leaves Hilary. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/3 "2015-05-27T00:11:06Z")
Chelsea’s Mom has got it goin’ on! ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/4 "2015-05-27T01:07:34Z")
What **Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor** said is how I think too, and one should thank the usual right wingers with their usual half cooked opposition to then turn that luke warm position into excitement. When one is forced by them to take a closer look like when I did against some silly opposition points launched against Hillary recently: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18243782&postcount=3](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18243782&postcount=3) ---
**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/5 "2015-05-27T01:16:57Z")
The most vocally passionate voters tend to be be more extreme and Hillary is centrist. The more centrist parts of both parties don’t drive a lot of the early conversation during the nomination process. On top of it Hillary isn’t a new candidate where people can only see the parts that got her to this point. She’s gotten attention for so long we know both the strengths and weaknesses she brings to the table. We know her too well for wild hope and misplaced enthusiasm. To top it all off she’s been seen as the presumptive nominee since well before she announced. It’s hard to get enthusiasm out that. To cap it off she’s not exactly the epitome of charisma. I personally am more enthusiastic about her announcement than any since Bob Dole… Hmmmm, that might say something about me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/6 "2015-05-27T01:43:54Z")
The Republicans haven’t settled on a candidate, so this thing isn’t even going yet. When we know who is running against her (or Mr. Sanders, not.) things will pick up. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/7 "2015-05-27T02:18:34Z")
I don’t really see any need for unbridled enthusiasm. I’m either going to greet the day after Election Day with a shrug of resignation and relief, or embark on a drug-addled bender of galactic proportions. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/8 "2015-05-27T02:29:33Z")
The Iowa Caucus is still over eight months away. And that’s just the opening event of the campaign. How excited can any sane person be at this point? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/9 "2015-05-27T02:36:14Z")
You know any we could ask? ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/10 "2015-05-27T02:56:54Z")
I’m not at all excited about her an I constantly pray that another Democrat will get in the race. At this point I’d vote for Sanders in the primary, although he’ll probably drop out before my state even votes. Still there’s no question I’ll vote against whomever the GOP throws up in the general. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/11 "2015-05-27T03:09:47Z")
What’s the reason to get excited? We all know she’s going to get the nomination. People cheer a close horse race. When we all already know the winner before the gates open, what’s there to be excited about? Would you be excited about the Yankees playing a high school team? ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/12 "2015-05-27T03:14:49Z")
Like others here, I am going to hold my nose and vote for her. Her positions are close enuf to mine. It’s not really a vote _FOR_ Hillary as it is a vote _AGAINST_ the batshit Republican extremism. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/13 "2015-05-27T11:19:28Z")
I’m excited at the possibility for a crushing defeat for the Republicans. I’m not particularly excited about a Hillary campaign or presidency, but the first will more than motivate me to vote and donate. I’m really, REALLY excited for a crushing defeat for the Republicans (while recognizing that it’s not a foregone conclusion). ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 11:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/14 "2015-05-27T11:39:30Z")
It’s like the first day of snow. We all know it’s going to come, so we don’t go batty when it does. We’ve known since 2008 that Hillary was going to run again so when the utterly expected happens it doesn’t cause excitement. When Jeb gets the nomination and it’s him vs Hillary, the anti-Jeb enthusiasm will be more than enough motivation to get Democrats to the polls. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/15 "2015-05-27T14:04:07Z")
There will be excitement. Not because of who the candidate is, per se, but because we’ll be as close as we’ve ever been to having a female president. There are a few reasons that’s not as exciting as the Obama candidacy. First, we’ve known about Hillary for years. She’s not a surprise. Obama’s DNC speech was, what, three years before he won the nomination? Second, a female POTUS is less exciting than an African-American POTUS. We haven’t had one before, but I don’t think any of us grew up thinking we’d never see one in our lifetimes. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/16 "2015-05-27T14:34:54Z")
Where is the excitement for anyone? Like **Nemo** said, the election is still over a year away. Sheesh. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/17 "2015-05-27T14:37:08Z")
Hillary is a terrible campaigner. She is as wooden as Bill was a natural. She has a tin ear for political dialog, and a positive gift for saying exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time. Note that this says \*\*nothing \*\*about her abilities to do the job. Maybe she’d be great, maybe she’d be dreadful, but as a campaigner, her best bet is to hope for an even worse opponent. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/18 "2015-05-27T14:45:06Z")
This sounds a lot like what Republicans were saying about George Bush Senior in 1992. “No, I don’t really like him much, but he’s better than the other guy.” We all know how that ended. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/19 "2015-05-27T15:07:38Z")
> [@BrotherCadfael](#): > > Hillary is a terrible campaigner. She is as wooden as Bill was a natural. She has a tin ear for political dialog, and a positive gift for saying exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time. I know that nobody on this board want to hear it, but right-wing characterizations of Hillary are pretty much correct: She’s aloof, distant, and kind of a bitch. She rode Bill’s coattails into the Senate, and really that’s her only hope for winning the presidency, because on her own she’s basically a female version of John Kerry. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2015, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/20 "2015-05-27T15:17:29Z")
You don’t seem to hear that much from people who’ve actually talked with her. Her approach to winning the New York Senate seat was to go retail, with that well-known “listening tour”, to build up ground-level support (No, Bill didn’t \*give \*her the seat; it’s common to disparage women’s accomplishments by saying such things, though). The characterizations you mention, along with their right-wing sources, are a step up from their former approach of making fun of her thick ankles and her ugly kid, at least. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925.md?page=2)