# Where is the excitement for Hillary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [May 26, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925 "2015-05-26T23:52:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/41 "2015-05-28T14:04:41Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > How about “the day after the Dawgs’ season ends”, then? Better. ---
**Author:** ![CGav8r](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@CGav8r](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CGav8r)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/42 "2015-05-28T15:05:40Z")
Most folks don’t really care all that much right now, to be honest. Once the campaign gets in full swing it is a tiring affair of debates, campaign speeches and idiotic commercials from outside interest groups, and most folks aren’t anxious to begin that madness. Overall interest/excitement for any candidate will begin building in the fall, I’m thinking. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/43 "2015-05-28T16:13:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Whoops. I forgot we had a president from 2000-2004. :smack: Guy named Cheney, you remember him. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/44 "2015-05-28T16:20:33Z")
Hillary is the safe choice, and safe choices are never exciting. Sure, I would get much more excited over a Warren or Sanders nomination, (and will vote Sanders one in the primary if Hillary is a shoe-in) but I don’t want to risk a more radical candidate if it means losing the general. When its third and one, going with a run down the middle isn’t as exciting as going for a pass into the in-zone, but its the right choice. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/45 "2015-05-28T16:41:30Z")
I can only do one thing at a time, and right now I’m too busy laughing at all the Republican candidates popping up. The clown train keeps getting longer and longer, giving me no time to focus on my own candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/46 "2015-05-28T17:01:06Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > I know that nobody on this board want to hear it, but right-wing characterizations of Hillary are pretty much correct: She’s aloof, distant, and kind of a bitch. She rode Bill’s coattails into the Senate, and really that’s her only hope for winning the presidency, because on her own she’s basically a female version of John Kerry. I don’t think that’s a very different assessment then you’re hearing from those on this board who will vote for her. That said, I do know some people who are jumping-up-and-down excited about her running. I’m not one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Nema98](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/d2c977/32.png) [@Nema98](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nema98)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/47 "2015-05-30T22:37:35Z")
I’m a young democratic and put me into no excitement, in fact I dislike Hillary Clinton. She seems so out of tune and not really in touch, and lacks charisma and looks wooden. My hope is a younger democrat comes in and thrashes her in the primaries just like Barack Obama did in 2008. The '08 elections proved that even with her name recognition and at the time invincibility, she lost to a newbie with a weird name. I am of the mindset that Democrats by no means depend on Hillary Clinton to win the White house in 2016. As time rolls on many candidates will come in and they are fringe socialists either. I would not be surprised if another Democrat surged ahead and won the nomination. Plus I am sick and tired of the Clintons, and the Bush family also. If were a Republican I would not vote for Jeb Bush, an idiot of the same cloth as his brother. We do not need another President Bush, we already had two. Enough is enough. I would cast for someone like Marco Rubio if I were a GOP supporter. So remember Hillary is hardly the democrats’ savior, 2008 was the proof. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/48 "2015-05-30T23:15:50Z")
My guess is, there’s no “excitement” for Hillary because there’s no need for excitement yet. I don’t see anybody else getting the Democratic nomination, although you never know how the “superdelegates” are going to vote. Her supporters don’t want her momentum to peak too early. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/49 "2015-05-30T23:24:24Z")
Well, she’s a center-right corporatist. Not ideal for many democrats, so it’s pretty much ‘she’s not a Republican and she can win’ for me. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/50 "2015-05-31T03:21:50Z")
I’m obviously not excited about her, but I’m not afraid of another Clinton Presidency either. We can do business with the Clintons. Triangulation is back! ---
**Author:** ![even\_sven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/dfb087/32.png) [@even\_sven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/even_sven)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/51 "2015-05-31T10:34:52Z")
I suspect we will all have our full of elections soon enough. I’m exited enough about Clinton, but not looking forward to the circus of election season. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/52 "2015-05-31T16:55:59Z")
Unless Herman Cain comes back. I love that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/53 "2015-06-01T06:31:08Z")
Wow. It’s almost like Hillary is trying to push me into the Sanders or O’Malley column. [Clinton to make drug addiction and mental health key campaign issues](http://wapo.st/1Fk0HFF). Are you freaking kidding me? All the economic issue that are on the table and these are your central campaign issues? Mental health and drug addiction are not Presidential campaign issues. They are more appropriate as the pet causes of a first spouse. Hillary, if you want to get my vote, you’d better start listening to Sanders and O’Malley, and figuring out which way the wind blows. It’s still the economy, stupid. If you forget that, you are lost, and I will look elsewhere. I was tepid on your candidacy before, but if you don’t get vocal about some serious economic reforms, I may turn actively hostile. ---
**Author:** ![Stately\_Greek\_Automaton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aca169/32.png) [@Stately\_Greek\_Automaton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stately_Greek_Automaton)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 9:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/54 "2015-06-01T09:10:54Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > Wow. It’s almost like Hillary is trying to push me into the Sanders or O’Malley column. > > [Clinton to make drug addiction and mental health key campaign issues](http://wapo.st/1Fk0HFF). > > Are you freaking kidding me? All the economic issue that are on the table and these are your central campaign issues? Mental health and drug addiction are not Presidential campaign issues. They are more appropriate as the pet causes of a first spouse. > > Hillary, if you want to get my vote, you’d better start listening to Sanders and O’Malley, and figuring out which way the wind blows. It’s still the economy, stupid. If you forget that, you are lost, and I will look elsewhere. > > I was tepid on your candidacy before, but if you don’t get vocal about some serious economic reforms, I may turn actively hostile. Addressing mental health can be an economic issue. Depression has [lost productivity costs of around $83 billion per year](http://www.depressioncenter.org/work/information-for-employers/lost-productivity/). On top of that, it has the benefit of improving quality of life for those afflicted. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/55 "2015-06-01T11:23:05Z")
We are electing a chief executive officer, not a group therapist. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/56 "2015-06-01T11:58:39Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > We are electing a chief executive officer, not a group therapist. Consider the (disastrous) effect of Reagan’s policies on the mentally ill. What the President does can make a difference. ---
**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/57 "2015-06-01T12:07:38Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > [Clinton to make drug addiction and mental health key campaign issues](http://wapo.st/1Fk0HFF). Can we all take a minute to gaze in awe at WaPo’s shitty new format? Who the hell dreamed that up? It’s a news story. All it needs is text + a photo. You could do the whole site HTML 2 and it would work just fine. In fact you can skip the photos. We’ve all see Hilary and Jeb before. We know what they look like. Seeing them again is not edifying. And before breakfast even! Cripes, the web has really gone downhill since we allowed these stupid graphical browsers. ```auto On to your post. Drug addiction and mental health are serious issues that affect the health and prosperity of the majority of US citizens. Improving the health and prosperity is very much a presidential issue. It, along with healthcare spending in general, are also very much economic issues that affect this nation's citizens. You want to know where income inequality has the greatest impact on US citizens? Healthcare quality and availability. Providing better and more affordable healthcare options *is* an economic decision. That's why the Republican efforts to scuttle healthcare programs are not just cruel but economically stupid. Americans spend more on health care than any other first world country on the plenty, with thoroughly mediocre results. Poor people routinely have to forgo treatments which are unaffordable and our homeless population includes many who are addicted or mentally ill and have no where else to turn. If Hilary want to improve healthcare for Americans suffering from addiction or mental illness, she will be improving both the lives of vulnerable citizens and America's overall economic prosperity. ``` ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/58 "2015-06-01T12:42:14Z")
Plus there’s that whole thing about how every time there’s a mass shooting a certain segment of the population is straight out there saying how the problem is that we need better mental health care rather than restricted access to guns. I’m sure Hillary will have their full support on this. Full. Support. ---
**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/59 "2015-06-01T13:05:18Z")
> [@Merneith](#): > > Can we all take a minute to gaze in awe at WaPo’s shitty new format? Who the hell dreamed that up? It’s a news story. All it needs is text + a photo. You could do the whole site HTML 2 and it would work just fine. In fact you can skip the photos. We’ve all see Hilary and Jeb before. We know what they look like. Seeing them again is not edifying. And before breakfast even! Cripes, the web has really gone downhill since we allowed these stupid graphical browsers. Jeez, that is a bad format! :eek: I hope the Washington Post admits it left a turd in the pool and switches back, quickly. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2015, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925/60 "2015-06-01T13:10:26Z")
> [@Diceman](#): > > Jeez, that is a bad format! :eek: I hope the Washington Post admits it left a turd in the pool and switches back, quickly. They obviously know it’s bad because they left users the option to switch back to the “classic” format. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-excitement-for-hillary/720925.md?page=4)