# Where is the "graphic sexual content"?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352>\
**Category:** About This Message Board\
**Created:** [June 3, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352 "2018-06-03T13:28:10Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/181 "2018-06-04T16:41:04Z")

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> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#):
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> Doesn’t that beat having us act arbitrarily and capriciously? We’re a patient bunch. Better to move slowly and with discussion than otherwise.

I for one, demand _more_ arbitrary capriciousness from our mod overlords/ladies.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/182 "2018-06-04T16:43:20Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> I for one, demand _more_ arbitrary capriciousness from our mod overlords/ladies.

The temptation to arbitrarily and capriciously ban you now is almost overwhelming. 😃  
… almost

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/183 "2018-06-04T16:44:41Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> I for one, demand _more_ arbitrary capriciousness from our mod overlords/ladies.

If I could reshape the world in my image and not consider consistency or fairness…

Sorry, blissed out there just thinking about it.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/184 "2018-06-04T16:45:36Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> If I could reshape the world in my image and not consider consistency or fairness…
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> Sorry, blissed out there just thinking about it.

You’d ban him too, admit it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/185 "2018-06-04T16:47:47Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> I for one, demand _more_ arbitrary capriciousness from our mod overlords/ladies.

Offer your assistance Sensei 😃

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/186 "2018-06-04T16:48:52Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> You could make _exactly_ the same argument about any troll, spammer or similar. Why do the mods delete spam? Why do they ban trolls? We could just not open their posts, or put them on ignore, right?
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> Short answer is - why should ordinary posters be the ones to do anything, and not the jerks?

Because what is offensive to one or some may not be offensive to many or all. The so-called ignore tool allows each person to make the choice best for that person without censoring content others choose to participate in.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/187 "2018-06-04T16:50:37Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Because what is offensive to one or some may not be offensive to many or all. The so-called ignore tool allows each person to make the choice best for that person without censoring content others choose to participate in.

Why hasn’t anyone though of that before now? What an idea.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/188 "2018-06-04T16:54:51Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> _twitch_. No, no I haven’t. I read it when I was thirteen, and thought that was the best thing ever. That single scene has kept me from rereading the book. Fair point–I can’t believe I forgot about that.
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> I hate to rob you of the entertainment you gain by not reading carefully, but I’m afraid if you do read more carefully, you’ll be disappointed.
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> Are you clear on what apophasis is, and why it’s an irritating rhetorical/literary device? There’s no way you can say I was engaging in apophasis.

Yeah, I find it weird that it’s not the graphic violence in those books that is troubling.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/189 "2018-06-04T16:58:07Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Why hasn’t anyone though of that before now? What an idea.

It is a good idea. Up until the point a new rule is needed which I agreed with concerning misleading thread titles. Concerning these false disclaimers? It is petulant and unnecessary behavior.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/190 "2018-06-04T17:00:14Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> It is a good idea. …

Because it’s only a half step from making the victims the guilty party here.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/191 "2018-06-04T17:17:30Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Because what is offensive to one or some may not be offensive to many or all. The so-called ignore tool allows each person to make the choice best for that person without censoring content others choose to participate in.

So if the mods choose to stop deleting our regular Indian spammers, you’ll be OK with that because you can just ignore them, right?

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**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/192 "2018-06-04T17:21:56Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> Yeah, I find it weird that it’s not the graphic violence in those books that is troubling.

There’s a group sex scene with prepubescent children. I slightly suspect you don’t know what we’re talking about because while people might be upset by the violence, it is expected in a horror novel, and a weird pedo orgy scene is not expected.

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**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/193 "2018-06-04T17:24:49Z")

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> [@Bone](#):
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> In my view this isn’t a female or male issue.

I partly agree and partly disagree.

I agree that the sex of the complainers shouldn’t (and probably doesn’t) matter as to the outcome or the mods’ decision.

But I disagree that it doesn’t make a difference, on this board, if the situation is women complaining about a man’s behavior vs. men complaining about a woman’s behavior. Truly, many men just don’t seem to understand why women feel attacked and vulnerable from some of Skald’s posting behavior. Women are, sadly, a minority on this board, and often marginalized.

If there were a white poster who offered hypotheticals that occasionally featured drooling references to whipping slaves or lynching, that poster wouldn’t last 5 minutes on this board. Pretty much everyone gets how wrong (and disgusting) that would be. That isn’t identical to this situation, being an imperfect analogy, but that is the frame of reference that helps me understand, to some degree, where some of the women are coming from. White supremacy goes back a few hundred years. Male supremacy, and treating women as “other” and “lesser” goes back pretty much to the beginning of most civilizations. They’ve been fighting a long time. I reckon some of them are tired of putting up with the bullshit.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/194 "2018-06-04T17:28:26Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So if the mods choose to stop deleting our regular Indian spammers, you’ll be OK with that because you can just ignore them, right?

That content violates board rules whether or not it includes a disclaimer. The threads in question here do not have content that violate the rules.

Further, there is gross illogic in play to say that disclaimers must be made about certain subjects yet accurate disclaimers not so required are somehow resulting in harm. But this isn’t really about disclaimer is it? It’s about censorship of content.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/195 "2018-06-04T17:29:09Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Because it’s only a half step from making the victims the guilty party here.

BS. And try to have some agency instead of seeking perpetual victimhpod.

> [@MrDibble](#):
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> So if the mods choose to stop deleting our regular Indian spammers, you’ll be OK with that because you can just ignore them, right?

Spammers? Nah. They need IP bans. A poster that does a thread or two a quarter? Yeah.

> [@tnetennba](#):
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> There’s a group sex scene with prepubescent children. I slightly suspect you don’t know what we’re talking about because while people might be upset by the violence, it is expected in a horror novel, and a weird pedo orgy scene is not expected.

There was also a description of a child being beat to death with a hammer. Consensual freakiness is preferable to a non consensual meat tenderizing and bone pulverization. But, I admit, what people are bothered by is subjective.

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**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/196 "2018-06-04T17:42:04Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> Offer your assistance Sensei 😃

\< Not Mod \>

You’re box…wait…they don’t have a box here. You’re suspended for 1 hour as warning to others.

\< /Not Mod \>

Bone? ITD? Get right on this, ok? ::snaps fingers::

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/197 "2018-06-04T17:54:52Z")

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> [@TriPolar](#):
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> That content violates board rules whether or not it includes a disclaimer. The threads in question here do not have content that violate the rules.
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> Further, there is gross illogic in play to say that disclaimers must be made about certain subjects yet accurate disclaimers not so required are somehow resulting in harm. But this isn’t really about disclaimer is it? It’s about censorship of content.

People have always been required to label NSFW content.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/198 "2018-06-04T17:56:40Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> People have always been required to label NSFW content.

Who is contending otherwise? This is about labeling SFW content and the nonsensical arguments against such a thing.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/199 "2018-06-04T18:10:20Z")

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> [@Fenris](#):
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> \< Not Mod \>
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> You’re box…wait…they don’t have a box here. You’re suspended for 1 hour as warning to others.
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> \< /Not Mod \>
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> Bone? ITD? Get right on this, ok? ::snaps fingers::

Teach by example I always say.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [June 4, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/200 "2018-06-04T18:18:11Z")

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> [@octopus](#):
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> BS. And try to have some agency instead of seeking perpetual victimhpod.
> 
> …

It’s really unfortunate that you can’t, at least, see 2 sides here. You’re dismissing one side’s argument that traffic signals are best at dangerous intersections by suggesting they just drive more carefully and avoid intersections.

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