# Where is the "graphic sexual content"? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [June 3, 2018, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352 "2018-06-03T13:28:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/61 "2018-06-03T19:44:11Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > Wouldn’t false triggers be a form of trolling? That’s exactly what it is. It’s practically a textbook example. Skald got his feelings hurt, so he’s starting every thread with a middle finger extended in the direction of those who would shackle the mighty Skald with their picayune rules. Fundamentally this is no different from billfish678’s “Go on, mods, ban me! I hear the wagons circling! Ban me, I dare ya!” shtick, which we heard every time he was admonished (until the moderators obliged him). ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/62 "2018-06-03T20:08:40Z")
I can’t believe we’re doing this again. Thank you to the mods for enforcing what we discussed last weekend. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/63 "2018-06-03T20:14:08Z")
Really? What you wanted was moderation of a snarky attitude? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/64 "2018-06-03T20:20:18Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Really? What you wanted was moderation of a snarky attitude? Let’s not put words into other poster’s mouths. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/65 "2018-06-03T20:21:02Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Really? What you wanted was moderation of a snarky attitude? Don’t. Be. A. Jerk. What about the application of that to Skald’s unnecessary “disclaimer” don’t you understand? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/66 "2018-06-03T20:23:27Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Don’t. Be. A. Jerk. > > What about the application of that to Skald’s unnecessary “disclaimer” don’t you understand? He’s being cantankerous. He’s being petulant. He’s not being a jerk. A false disclaimer doesn’t actually hurt anyone. It doesn’t insult anyone. It doesn’t reveal spoilers. It doesn’t actually do anything to anyone. It’s a small, nominal, rebellion that doesn’t disturb the order of the board. It’s unnecessarily authoritarian to extend “you must post a warning of explicit material to follow” to “you must not post an anti-warning that no explicit material will follow.” The people who are reacting with “shut down his petulant rebellion!” are the ones being jerks about the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/67 "2018-06-03T20:30:43Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > He’s being cantankerous. He’s being petulant. He’s not being a jerk. A false disclaimer doesn’t actually hurt anyone. It doesn’t insult anyone. It doesn’t reveal spoilers. It doesn’t actually do anything to anyone. It’s a small, nominal, rebellion that doesn’t disturb the order of the board. > > It’s unnecessarily authoritarian to extend “you must post a warning of explicit material to follow” to “you must not post an anti-warning that no explicit material will follow.” > > The people who are reacting with “shut down his petulant rebellion!” are the ones being jerks about the whole thing. “Rebellion.” Okay. He’s being a child and a jerk, taking shots at people who called him out on his strangely fetishist posts that start off as innocuous and then go into rape/torture-porn territory, out of nowhere. If you honestly feel that his disclaimers are all being made in good-faith, I highly anticipate all of your posts to include something of a similar nature. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/68 "2018-06-03T20:35:23Z")
> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#): > > I agree that the warning could have been more explicit, but the “acting like this” part of my warning was referencing the snarky attitude he was exhibiting. > [@Helena330](#): > > I can’t believe we’re doing this again. > > Thank you to the mods for enforcing what we discussed last weekend. > [@Acsenray](#): > > Really? What you wanted was moderation of a snarky attitude? > [@Colibri](#): > > Let’s not put words into other poster’s mouths. Fine, what’s the goal here? What are we doing “again”? Is the to warn people of explicit sexual content or is it to get a single poster to wrestle the snarky attitude of single poster—who otherwise is complying with that goal—into submission? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/69 "2018-06-03T20:37:53Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > “Rebellion.” Okay. > > He’s being a child and a jerk, taking shots at people who called him out on his strangely fetishist posts that start off as innocuous and then go into rape/torture-porn territory, out of nowhere. > > If you honestly feel that his disclaimers are all being made in good-faith, I highly anticipate all of your posts to include something of a similar nature. I don’t care whether _all_ his disclaimers are being made in good faith or not, so long as he is giving adequate warning at the start of any of his “fetishist posts that start off as innocuous and then go into rape/torture-porn territory.” Let the rest go. You’re escalating the issue beyond what’s needed. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/70 "2018-06-03T20:38:12Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Fine, what’s the goal here? What are we doing “again”? > > Is the to warn people of explicit sexual content or is it to get a single poster to wrestle the snarky attitude of single poster—who otherwise is complying with that goal—into submission? He’s not complying, hence 2 mod notes and one warning. He has been counseled, noted, and warned. Why does he continue to do it? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/71 "2018-06-03T20:40:02Z")
> [@Morgenstern](#): > > He’s not complying, hence 2 mod notes and one warning. He has been counseled, noted, and warned. Why does he continue to do it? He’s not complying with what? Are his graphic sexual posts not adequately labeled as such? If they are, then just forget about the rest. At this point, you’re just enforcing rules for enforcement’s sake. “He’s resisting arrest! He’s resisting arrest!” You want him not only to comply with a substantive rule, but also do it with a smile. ---
**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/72 "2018-06-03T20:40:26Z")
Mods, thanks for taking this seriously. ---
**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/73 "2018-06-03T20:40:45Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Fine, what’s the goal here? What are we doing “again”? > > Is the to warn people of explicit sexual content or is it to get a single poster to wrestle the snarky attitude of single poster—who otherwise is complying with that goal—into submission? Is this really the hill upon which you want to die? The mods made a rule that could apply to more people, but right now, it has been enacted to respond to a **repeated** instance by a single poster. If your thread title is something akin to “Hey! Who likes puppies?” and then, midway through, you go into a graphic snuff-porn scene, then yeah, there should be some disclaimer at the top of the thread. And no, I’m not saying that Skald posts about snuff-porn, but since dealing in absolutes is the only way to reach certain people, here we are. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/74 "2018-06-03T20:43:29Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Is this really the hill upon which you want to die? > > The mods made a rule that could apply to more people, but right now, it has been enacted to respond to a **repeated** instance by a single poster. > > If your thread title is something akin to “Hey! Who likes puppies?” and then, midway through, you go into a graphic snuff-porn scene, then yeah, there should be some disclaimer at the top of the thread. And no, I’m not saying that Skald posts about snuff-porn, but since dealing in absolutes is the only way to reach certain people, here we are. This post has nothing to do with anything I’ve written in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/75 "2018-06-03T20:43:40Z")
Last comment on this: I would like the guy to stop being a jerk about this. He posted in a way that was upsetting to some of our members. We asked hm to put a warning about it- not even to stop posting. His response was to be petulant and passive-agressive, which made the board a less enjoyable place to be and is insulting to the people who had the complaint, and to the mods who reached out to him. I get it- you think his disclaimer on all his hypotheticals is innocent. To us, it absolutely is not. I would like him to be held accountable like any other member, and abide by the request of the mods. If there isn’t a reasonable expectation that a mod can enforce a policy, then what are we doing volunteering for this position? The request is to put a disclaimer about graphic sexuality in a thread that it’s not clear you’d see it and now we are also asking he not put insincere disclaimers effectively expressing his displeasure at being asked to do the first. You can disagree about the request to him- people can disagree in good faith. But once the mod ruling is out there, it is reasonable we’d want to be able to enforce it. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/76 "2018-06-03T20:46:00Z")
> [@Calatin](#): > > Is this really the hill upon which you want to die? > > The mods made a rule that could apply to more people, but right now, it has been enacted to respond to a **repeated** instance by a single poster. > > If your thread title is something akin to “Hey! Who likes puppies?” and then, midway through, you go into a graphic snuff-porn scene, then yeah, there should be some disclaimer at the top of the thread. And no, I’m not saying that Skald posts about snuff-porn, but since dealing in absolutes is the only way to reach certain people, here we are. This post has nothing to do with anything I’ve written in this thread. I have no problem with a rule that requires adequate labeling of explicit material. I have no problem with a decision (as has been made with other posters before) that his habitual breaching of explicit material requires banning. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/77 "2018-06-03T20:48:54Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > He’s not complying with what?. With this: > [@Bone](#): > > We have come to the conclusion that in certain instances, clear notice in either the title, or the beginning of the OP, or both, will be required to give people a heads up if a thread is going in a direction that includes explicit sexual material. Something akin to ‘[WARNING: Contains explicit sexual material]’. This is derived from the rule about clear thread labeling, as well as not being a jerk. > > If a thread is titled, ‘let’s talk about scat porn fetishes’, well that’s pretty clearly labeled already and we can surmise what the thread will be about and a warning probably isn’t necessary. If however, it’s called “Is this Chevy Malibu a reliable car?” and later in the body the real point of contention is all the scat porn filmed in the backseat, well, it’s reasonable to not want to be rickrolled into scat porn threads so a warning should be included, or better yet a more clear thread title. > > This is a judgment call, and one off instances may not get as much notice. However, if there is a pattern of behavior or if something should be looked at, we encourage reports so that we may evaluate. Obviously a warning notice posted in every thread or title defeats the purpose of this guidance. > > We have also reached out directly to Skald as some of his posts were the catalyst for this thread, however this guidance applies generally. Underlining is mine as it directly answers your question. ---
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/78 "2018-06-03T20:50:26Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > … > > You want him not only to comply with a substantive rule, but also do it with a smile. Actually, I would respect him if he did that. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/79 "2018-06-03T20:52:06Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > With this: > > Underlining is mine as it directly answers your question. No, it doesn’t. Because he didn’t post a warning in the thread linked in the OP he said there’s NO rape in this thread. That’s not a warning so it doesn’t violate the rule you underlined. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [June 3, 2018, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352/80 "2018-06-03T20:52:37Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Fine, what’s the goal here? What are we doing “again”? > > Is the to warn people of explicit sexual content or is it to get a single poster to wrestle the snarky attitude of single poster—who otherwise is complying with that goal—into submission? Read last week’s thread. It’s not up to others to educate you. Even so, other people have been trying and you refuse to comprehend, and instead, twist our words to suit your narrative. _One more time:_ Skald is mocking the people who spoke out against him, and he’s refused repeated requests to knock it off. _That’s all he has to do._ And we’ve yet to hear from Skald. Most people would apologize for how they may have negatively affected people. He chooses to mock. That’s not a person I’d defend. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-graphic-sexual-content/815352.md?page=5)