# Where is the liberal and feminist outrage over misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump by Bow Wow? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295 "2017-03-16T05:41:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/261 "2017-03-17T04:58:12Z")
> [@neofishboy](#): > > I’m sure there are more, but [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936633&postcount=120) is the most recent one I remembered. > > Nearly two months later, the number of board conservatives who have denounced this post: 0. Well, I denounce it now. And yes I _DO_ count as a board conservative, for all that I am proud to be a life-long Democrat. If you meant to refer exclusively to Pubbies, you should have said “board right-wing reactionaries.” #wordsmeanthings ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/262 "2017-03-17T07:14:28Z")
> [@MindsEye\_Watering](#): > > He’s clearly an idiot child and a punk-ass troll. He surely is, which raises the question of why so many people are debating and engaging him. > [@](#): > > One day a hunter took his trusty Winchester to the mountains to hunt for bear. He hid behind a rock that overlooked a beautiful valley and waited. > > Soon a bear appeared by the stream which ran through the valley. The hunter aimed and fired. When the smoke cleared he couldn’t see the bear. > > Then there was a tap, tap, tap on his shoulder. > > The man turned around and there was the bear, standing 7 feet high, towering over him. The bear said, “you tried to shoot me didn’t you?” To which the Hunter replied, “Yes, I’m afraid I did.” “Well,” said the Bear, "in that case you will have to give me a blow job. > > Having no choice in the matter, the Hunter did as he was told. > > That night the Hunter was really angry and vowed to get revenge. So the next day he went to the same spot, only this time he brought a huge elephant gun. Once again the bear appeared and the hunter fired. After the smoke cleared the hunter couldn’t see no carcass. > > Tap, tap, tap. “You tried to shoot me didn’t you?” > > “Why, yes, I’m afraid I did.” > > "Well take your pants down and bend over. I’m going to have to screw you up the ass. Having no choice the Hunter did what he was told. > > That night the Hunter was really, really angry and resolved that he would get the Bear no matter what. > > This time he brought an M60. He went to the same spot and waited until the bear appeared by the stream. He fired off fifty rounds. When the smoke cleared, he couldn’t see the bear. > > Tap, tap, tap. “You tried to shoot me didn’t you?” > > The Hunter Gulped. “Yes, I’m afraid I did.” > > The Bear thought for a moment then said, “You don’t come here for the hunting, do you?” ---
**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/263 "2017-03-17T07:52:52Z")
> [@Larry\_Borgia](#): > > He surely is, which raises the question of why so many people are debating and engaging him. He’s the useful kind that lets us post stuff we want to say anyway. Think of it like arguing with the people he plagiarizes. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/264 "2017-03-17T08:12:27Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Also, Michelle Obama was subjected to racist attacks, yes, and I was offended by them, but didn’t always hear about them since they came from low-level trolls and the like. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > Being a “bigot” is not a Christian thing to do; to the contrary, it is an expressly anti-Christian thing to do and goes against the words of God Himself. He’s very clear on this, to “love thy neighbor”. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh my god, this guy is a riot! Can we keep him? Can we? 😃 > [@ckalli1998](#): > > I meant to say that “saying that the majority of bigots in this country are Christians is itself anti-Christian bigotry”, because he’s assuming the “biggest bigots” in this country are Christians with no solid evidence whatsoever, solely because of their religious faith and an anecdote with a relative See, this is why I was laughing. Maybe you really don’t get it. But it’s not simply an assumption that the majority of bigots in this country are christians. Or at least, the majority of bigots with any power are christians. Who made sodomy between two consenting adults (something that harms nobody) illegal? Christians. Who pushed back hard against making it legal? Christians. Who fought tooth and nail against the APA reclassifying homosexuality? Christians. Who runs the “ex-gay ministries” whose primary effect is abusing children? Christians (mostly gay Christians, as it turns out). Who pushed for laws that would forbid teachers from talking about homosexuality in schools? Christians. Who passed and defended the abhorrent statutes in the Anoka-Hennepin school district which effectively prevented teachers from speaking up against anti-gay bullying, which led to a bunch of dead kids? Christians. Who supports bills which make it legal to discriminate against homosexuals, and opposes bills which tamp down on already-legal discrimination? Christians. Who went to bat to make it harder for women to get access to legal contraception? Christians. What religion does the quiverfull movement attribute its bizarre, backwards, misogynistic views to? Christianity. What religion consistently teaches its children that gay people are sick, diseased, wrong, evil, going to hell, and more? Christifuckinganity. Which religion has now shifted from anti-gay legislation to anti-trans legislation now that they’ve realized they’ve pretty well and good lost that battle? Do I even have to say it? And don’t even get me started on Ted Haggard. I could keep going if you’d like. I strongly recommend you take a look at [this letter](http://www.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/10/01/sl-letter-of-the-day-sorry-nothing-fun) Dan Savage responded to. It’s worth a read if you’re confused about what we’re talking about. Your religion is not as innocent as you might like to think. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > I’m a 19 year old black guy with zero porn on my computer hard drive. You’re not very good at guesswork. Okay, now I’m actually worried there may be something seriously wrong with you. Zero porn on your hard drive? Yikes, dude! I mean, I only have a few gigs, but > [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Now you come out of nowhere, posting way more on this 2000s era piece of internet nostalgia than a 19 year old college student has any right to, […] Hey, let’s be fair, I showed up here when I was like 16 or something. This place is great. The caliber of discussion is consistently significantly higher than I see literally anywhere else on the internet. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/265 "2017-03-17T08:25:39Z")
Christians did indeed make anal and oral sodium between males a crime back in the day when it was traditionally viewed as a health hazard and a morally obtuse thing to do. Indeed, after all anal sodomy among males was primarily responsible for the AIDS crisis in the 80s and whatnot. It is Christian teaching that that type of behavior is wrong, but no one wants to criminalize its now. We Christians still oppose anal sodomy when it’s man on boy and man on girl and so forth, but if it’s two consenting adults we don’t think it should be illegal (except if it’s prostitution). We aren’t bigots. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/266 "2017-03-17T08:45:32Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Christians did indeed make anal and oral sodium between males a crime back in the day when it was traditionally viewed as a health hazard and a morally obtuse thing to do. Indeed, after all anal sodomy among males was primarily responsible for the AIDS crisis in the 80s and whatnot. It is Christian teaching that that type of behavior is wrong, but no one wants to criminalize its now. We Christians still oppose anal sodomy when it’s man on boy and man on girl and so forth, but if it’s two consenting adults we don’t think it should be illegal (except if it’s prostitution). We aren’t bigots. Congratulations, Christians have, by hook or crook, joined us in the 21st century on the issue of “should anal sex be legal”. But don’t you _dare_ pretend that these laws had anything to do with AIDS. Don’t you fucking _dare_ pretend that conservative christians gave a damn about AIDS. [They didn’t](http://www.back2stonewall.com/2016/06/june-19-1983-founder-moral-majority-jerry-falwell-aids-gods-punishment-homosexuals.html). Reactions ranged from Falwell and Buchanan saying that AIDS was god’s punishment to [Paul Cameron saying that AIDS might mean we have to kill all the gay people to stop its spread](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2005/history-anti-gay-movement-1977). Fucking really. They only cared about it to the degree they could use it as another cudgel to beat the fags with. They only ever started to care when straight people started dying, and yes, that applies to Ronald Reagan as well, who didn’t say anything publicly about the disease until 1985, years after the epidemic had started and the disease was well-known. It took until 1987 before he actually held a speech about the major epidemic that had been raging for years by that time. In private, [he joked about it](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis). Gay people dying was a joke to him. So take that bullshit and stuff it. Meanwhile, you still have the catholic church teaching that condoms don’t work in the parts of Africa most ravaged by the disease. You still have American preachers going to Africa to push things like Uganda’s kill the gays bill (that fucker is getting sued for crimes against humanity). This also addresses none of the other or more recent additions to the list. Would you like to address any of those? Or maybe I should just point to, among others, the Family Research Council, American Family Association, One Million Moms, Exodus International, and the Vice President of the United States of America, and call it a day. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/267 "2017-03-17T08:49:32Z")
You guys are putting way too much effort into crafting responses to an established plagiarist/troll. Feed him if you have to, but don’t make it gourmet. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/268 "2017-03-17T08:56:46Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Congratulations, Christians have, by hook or crook, joined us in the 21st century on the issue of “should anal sex be legal”. But don’t you _dare_ pretend that these laws had anything to do with AIDS. Don’t you fucking _dare_ pretend that conservative christians gave a damn about AIDS. [They didn’t](http://www.back2stonewall.com/2016/06/june-19-1983-founder-moral-majority-jerry-falwell-aids-gods-punishment-homosexuals.html). Reactions ranged from Falwell and Buchanan saying that AIDS was god’s punishment to [Paul Cameron saying that AIDS might mean we have to kill all the gay people to stop its spread](https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2005/history-anti-gay-movement-1977). Fucking really. They only cared about it to the degree they could use it as another cudgel to beat the fags with. They only ever started to care when straight people started dying, and yes, that applies to Ronald Reagan as well, who didn’t speak publicly about the disease until 1985, years after the epidemic had started and the disease was well-known. In private, [he joked about it](http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/11/reagan-administration-response-to-aids-crisis). > > Meanwhile, you still have the catholic church teaching that condoms don’t work in the parts of Africa most ravaged by the disease. You still have American preachers going to Africa to push things like Uganda’s kill the gays bill (that fucker is getting sued for crimes against humanity). > > This also addresses none of the other or more recent additions to the list. Would you like to address any of those? Or maybe I should just point to, among others, the Family Research Council, American Family Association, One Million Moms, Exodus International, and the Vice President of the United States of America, and call it a day. I get that this is an emotional issue for you which is understandable, AIDS killed many people after all. It is however false to say Reagan didn’t mention AIDS publicly until 1987, he in fact [mentioned it publicly](https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/211050/homophobe-myth-deroy-murdock)in September 1985 at a press conference detailing his budget to deal with AIDS. Reagan also increased funding for AIDS by hundreds of millions of dollars over his 8 years in office. And if he was such a homophobe, that must have been why he won California and New York in both his presidential campaigns, two places that are chock full of ultra-homophobic zealots! (sarcasm) :rolleyes::rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/269 "2017-03-17T09:57:06Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > **Debillw3** made an argument about the status and requirements of being “First Lady”, which failed to address the side argument regarding the relative ‘lady-likeness’ of Melania Trump as compared to SDMB username **Helena330**. You’ll have to give me chapter and verse on this. I’m not seeing it. I can’t see that there ever was an issue about the status and requirements of being a “First Lady” until Debillw3 raised it, precisely in response to the “side argument”. And in that context it was a complete non sequitur. Feel free to point out where I’m going wrong. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/270 "2017-03-17T10:30:56Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Christians did indeed make anal and oral sodium between males a crime back in the day when it was traditionally viewed as a health hazard and a morally obtuse thing to do. Indeed, after all anal sodomy among males was primarily responsible for the AIDS crisis in the 80s and whatnot. It is Christian teaching that that type of behavior is wrong, but no one wants to criminalize its now. We Christians still oppose anal sodomy when it’s man on boy and man on girl and so forth, but if it’s two consenting adults we don’t think it should be illegal (except if it’s prostitution). We aren’t bigots. You are a bigot, and you’ve just proven it. How generous of you to condemn my life with my husband, without wanting to jail us. And “anal and oral sodium”? Not with my high blood pressure. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/271 "2017-03-17T10:35:15Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > President Trump has never threatened to force anyone to be his sex slaves for profit. Probably true as phrased, but you might want to read up on his modelling agency for some fairly horrific stories of what he **has** done to women for profit: brought them to America without appropriate visas, paid them well below minimum wage when he bothered to pay them at all, and forced them to live in cramped and squalid conditions for which he deducted money from their pay. “He treats women marginally better than sex traffickers” is not a strong character recommendation. > [@Guinastasia](#): > > If by “recent history” you mean the middle of the 19th century. Abigail Adams, Julia Grant, Dolley Madison, Lucy Hayes, Edith Roosevelt, etc. I wouldn’t call them “recent”. More recent than that - certainly into the early 20th century and then tapering off until the spoiled Boomer generation. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > Nope. The Republican base will not like someone who makes sexist remarks about our wonderful Republican First Lady. Nice try, bruh Yeah, like the Republican base hasn’t made plenty of sexist remarks about Melania. But more of the “I’d rather hit _that_ than Hillary” variety, which I guess should be taken as a compliment to Melania. Bruh. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/272 "2017-03-17T10:45:16Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Christians did indeed make anal and oral sodium between males a crime back in the day when it was traditionally viewed as a health hazard and a morally obtuse thing to do. Indeed, after all anal sodomy among males was primarily responsible for the AIDS crisis in the 80s and whatnot. It is Christian teaching that that type of behavior is wrong, but **no one wants to criminalize its now**. We Christians still oppose anal sodomy when it’s man on boy and man on girl and so forth, but if it’s two consenting adults we don’t think it should be illegal (except if it’s prostitution). We aren’t bigots. Yeah, pretty much all of this is pure fantasy. [Consider](https://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/): > [@](#): > > In the United States, anti-sodomy laws were ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2003, but they are still on the books in 13 states: Alabama, Florida, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, Utah and Virginia. **Conservative state legislators refuse to repeal the laws and, in some cases, police still enforce them.** In the past several years more than a dozen LGBT people were arrested for violating those laws, but the arrestees were freed because prosecutors won’t seek convictions based on defunct laws. And that’s just the US. You’ll note that there are quite a large number of other countries in which homosexuality remains illegal, and if you actually bother to do the research you’ll find that religion (mostly Christianity and Islam) is the main driver of these laws. In conclusion, the way to stop your brown sugar from solidifying is to keep making cookies until you use it all up. I know it’s a sacrifice but it needs to be done. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 10:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/273 "2017-03-17T10:59:49Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > that applies to Ronald Reagan as well, who didn’t say anything publicly about the disease until 1985, years after the epidemic had started and the disease was well-known. It took until 1987 before he actually held a speech about the major epidemic that had been raging for years by that time. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > I get that this is an emotional issue for you which is understandable, AIDS killed many people after all. It is however false to say Reagan didn’t mention AIDS publicly until 1987, he in fact [mentioned it publicly](https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/211050/homophobe-myth-deroy-murdock)in September 1985 at a press conference detailing his budget to deal with AIDS. Jesus, son. Shut the fuck up. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/274 "2017-03-17T11:26:22Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Christians did indeed make anal and oral sodium between males a crime back in the day when it was traditionally viewed as a health hazard and a morally obtuse thing to do. Indeed, after all anal sodomy among males was primarily responsible for the AIDS crisis in the 80s and whatnot. It is Christian teaching that that type of behavior is wrong, but no one wants to criminalize its now. We Christians still oppose anal sodomy when it’s man on boy and man on girl and so forth, but if it’s two consenting adults we don’t think it should be illegal (except if it’s prostitution). We aren’t bigots. And you aren’t the official spokesperson for all of Christianity. You _may_ know something about whatever sect you belong to that deems itself to be “Christian”, at best. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/275 "2017-03-17T12:03:51Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Christians did indeed make anal and oral sodium between males a crime back in the day when it was traditionally viewed as a health hazard and a morally obtuse thing to do. Indeed, after all anal sodomy among males was primarily responsible for the AIDS crisis in the 80s and whatnot. It is Christian teaching that that type of behavior is wrong, but no one wants to criminalize its now. We Christians still oppose anal sodomy when it’s man on boy and man on girl and so forth, but if it’s two consenting adults we don’t think it should be illegal (except if it’s prostitution). We aren’t bigots. It was quite remarkable foresight by which your religion thoughtfully chose to condemn a behaviour some 1970 or more years before it started spreading a deadly disease. I feel like I need to make a wisecrack about syphilus and heterosexual behaviour here but I can’t bothered. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/276 "2017-03-17T12:30:58Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > anal and oral sodium No need to get salty. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/277 "2017-03-17T13:47:07Z")
> [@Princhester](#): > > You’ll have to give me chapter and verse on this. I’m not seeing it. I can’t see that there ever was an issue about the status and requirements of being a “First Lady” until Debillw3 raised it, precisely in response to the “side argument”. And in that context it was a complete non sequitur. Feel free to point out where I’m going wrong. When **Debillw3** responded to **Lobohan** , you said this: > [@Princhester](#): > > …I don’t think anyone here is denying that Melania is in every technical sense the “First Lady”. I think what people are saying is _she did nothing particularly worthy to get the role_. (Emphasis added.) The italicized portion seems to me to be an aspect of “status and requirements” for the position, as it clearly seems, based on their replies to **Lobohan** and then to you, to **Debillw3** as well. But I’m sure the poster can type for her/himself, so I’ll yield the argument. I interjected only because I find it intriguing when two people in basic agreement argue past each other because of slight differences of perspective or detail. (“Trees” vs. “Forest” stuff.) ---
**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/278 "2017-03-17T14:43:38Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > They only ever started to care when straight people started dying, and yes, that applies to Ronald Reagan as well, who didn’t say anything publicly about the disease until 1985, years after the epidemic had started and the disease was well-known. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > It is however false to say Reagan didn’t mention AIDS publicly until 1987, he in fact [mentioned it publicly](https://www.google.com/amp/s/bc.marfeel.com/amp/www.nationalreview.com/article/211050/homophobe-myth-deroy-murdock)in September 1985 at a press conference detailing his budget to deal with AIDS. (embiggening mine) The gutless little plagiarist also fails reading comprehension forever. Honors student, my foot. On preview: **Left Hand of Dorkness** beat me to it, but it’s funny enough to point out twice. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/279 "2017-03-17T14:59:21Z")
It was a block of big text, and it was late at night. Human error happens ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/280 "2017-03-17T15:03:46Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > It was a block of big text, and it was late at night. Human error happens Especially from plagiarizing, gutless cowards. Those folks seem to make an awful lot of errors. Kind of like Trump lying for years about Obama, continuing it today with the wiretapping lies, and being forced to apologize to the UK because his staff implicated them with no evidence. Makes sense that you feel so close to Trump – liars and plagiarist and the gutless probably need to stick together. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295.md?page=15)