# Where is the liberal and feminist outrage over misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump by Bow Wow?

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**Created:** [March 16, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295 "2017-03-16T05:41:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Debillw3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@Debillw3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debillw3)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/61 "2017-03-16T12:08:28Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Let’s start with Trump’s statements. Go!

I figured, since they invoked Michelle Obama, they ought to start with every individual who called her “Mooooochelle”, insisted she’s actually a man, or called her a hooker, whore, or some variation thereof.

As I pointed out earlier, given how many of those comments exist from such a large number of people, they won’t have time for literally anything else for a while.

Hope they like caffeine!

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/62 "2017-03-16T12:19:16Z")

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> [@Debillw3](#):
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> What she did to earn the role & what she did with the role has everything to do with what I’m talking about, as that’s the topic I replied to.

Nah, I’d give up while I was behind if I were you. **Lobohan’s** comment to which you replied wasn’t isolated:

> [@Lobohan](#):
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> > [@ckalli1998](#):
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> > Melania is certainly more of a lady than you’ll ever be, Helena.
> 
> What has Melania accomplished other than being attractive enough to be a shallow old man’s trophy wife?

So much as you may have missed the point, the point was whether or not Melania had accomplished more than **Helena** , not whether or not Melania had accomplished more than most first ladies. Maybe you weren’t strawmanning, maybe you just didn’t understand what was going on. Shrug.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/63 "2017-03-16T12:27:49Z")

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> [@ckalli1998](#):
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> Melania is certainly more of a lady than you’ll ever be, Helena.

And thus the gutless plagiarist shows himself to be sexist as well. Not surprising in the least.

By the way, what Bow Wow said was wrong and I denounce it. As have plenty of other liberals and feminists.

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**Author:** ![andrewm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c57346/32.png) [@andrewm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andrewm)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/64 "2017-03-16T12:30:32Z")

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I’m sure he didn’t mean for his statement to be taken literally or seriously. A spokesperson will be out shortly to clarify the real meaning with air quotes and it’ll be all better.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/65 "2017-03-16T12:35:38Z")

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> [@Fubaya](#):
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> I came into this thread wondering “what the fuck is a Bow Wow?” and now that I know, I’m wondering why the fuck I should care.

I thought he was the guy from Sha Na Na. No?

I, too, denounce misogyny in all its forms. If I didn’t, I might say that this is a pointless argument, as Melania Trump isn’t eligible for sex work anyway due to a non-compete agreement with her former employer. Well, sorry to disappoint the OP, but you won’t read anything in such poor taste on this forum.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/66 "2017-03-16T12:36:19Z")

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> [@ckalli1998](#):
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> I didn’t hear a denunciation of Bow Wow’s gross misogyny in there.

I didn’t get a harrumph outta that guy!

/Gov. William J. Le Petomane

Count me as another who has no idea who this “Bow Wow” is. I seem to remember some '80s group named Bow Wow Wow, but I take it from the missing extra “Wow” that we’re talking about someone else here.

Oh, and I support Mr. Wow’s First Amendment right to say idiotic things, even if I don’t happen to agree with his viewpoint.

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/67 "2017-03-16T13:16:54Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Bullshit.

I heard it’s best not to attack their disillusions. They might turn violent.

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**Author:** ![Azeotrope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/0ea827/32.png) [@Azeotrope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Azeotrope)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/68 "2017-03-16T13:27:45Z")

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I wouldn’t worry about violence. These college freshmen tend to be a bit pale and stringy from living on Skittles and Dr. Pepper, nursing their sniffles while hunched over their alt-right hate fora and manufacturing OUTRAEG!!! on the SDMB while the actual feminists are busy digging their cars out of 4 feet of drifted snow so they can get to work.

Oh, and Bow Wow’s as big of an asswipe as Trump. Can’t get fairer than that, right?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/69 "2017-03-16T13:28:08Z")

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> [@ckalli1998](#):
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> I’m getting more and more disgusted by the overt hypocrisies of the liberal, feminist left.
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> As I’m sure those of you who haven’t been living under a cave are aware, Snoop Dogg made a gratuitous video in which he literally performed a _mock execution_ of President Trump, he shot at a clown version of Trump. Pretty disgraceful to be joking about killing the President of your own country.
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> Anyway, naturally, Trump complained about this despicable act on Twitter:  
> \*[“Can you imagine what the outcry would be if @SnoopDogg, failing career and all, had aimed and fired the gun at President Obama? Jail time!”
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> — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 15, 2017]([x.com](https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/841967881516679168))\*

I actually did react to this tweet sometime yesterday. (Can’t remember where.) Something along the lines of “Is there any context to this tweet that would cause it to make sense, or is it just a random collection of words about blacks and violence?”

What I’m saying is that a lot of stuff happens every day, and nobody can be cognizant of all of it. Snoop Dogg was a BFD back in the 1990s, IIRC, but most of us ignore onetime celebs with ‘failing careers and all.’ And who the fuck knows or cares who ‘Bow Wow’ is?

So IMHO, the OP summarizes to: "Where is the liberal outrage over [event that probably few people paid enough attention to, to know that something possibly outrage-inducing had happened]?

This is a bit of a recurring theme from the right. Not quite the same as nutpicking, but not far from that sort of territory.

But just for shits and giggles, where’s the conservative outrage over Bow Wow? Did it even get much play on the right, other than Dolt 45’s incomprehensible tweet? Is The Corner going wild about it? How about Redstate?

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**Author:** ![Fubaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@Fubaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fubaya)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/70 "2017-03-16T13:29:06Z")

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> [@ckalli1998](#):
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> If a political opponent of Obama’s had made a similar scurrilous remark about Michelle Obama, the feminist and liberal women’s groups would rightly be up in arms in outrage. I know I would.

You do realize this happened just about every single day for the past 8 years, right? I would like to see proof that you were outraged every single time, else you’re sad, pathetic, sanctimonious hypocrite.

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**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/71 "2017-03-16T13:29:49Z")

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OP you got me, I now see the hypocrisy of the left and I’m changing my voter registration as we speak. I feel freer already, free from the burden of having to pretend to be outraged by misogyny on the right, no longer will I need to control my own misogynistic impulses. I can’t wait until my RNC ID card comes in the mail so I can start manhandling women’s vaginas without their consent. Oh, what a time this is going to be! Thank God the shackles of political correctness have been removed!

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/72 "2017-03-16T13:32:01Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Nah, I’d give up while I was behind if I were you. **Lobohan’s** comment to which you replied wasn’t isolated:
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> So much as you may have missed the point, the point was whether or not Melania had accomplished more than **Helena** , not whether or not Melania had accomplished more than most first ladies. Maybe you weren’t strawmanning, maybe you just didn’t understand what was going on. Shrug.

Can you be a bit less confrontational, **Princhester**? **Debillw3** made an argument about the status and requirements of being “First Lady”, which failed to address the side argument regarding the relative ‘lady-likeness’ of Melania Trump as compared to SDMB username **Helena330**. However, **Debillw3** ’s reply was a perfectly valid continuation of that poster’s argument to the OP, and far more germane to the thread as a whole than the side argument.

I’d say you’re both correct, just about two completely different points of contention.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/73 "2017-03-16T13:45:01Z")

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I’ll guess that most feminists, or feminist groups aren’t particularly supportive of gold diggers.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/74 "2017-03-16T13:49:59Z")

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… or [honey traps.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_trapping)

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/75 "2017-03-16T13:59:04Z")

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> [@ckalli1998](#):
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> There’s nothing tame about threatening to force the First Lady into sex slavery, nor is there anything tame about anti-Christian bigotry; Melania is a Christian conservative and this undoubtedly fueled this troglodyte’s venom towards her.

A “christian conservative” who has no problem making money by posing for immodest photographs and immorally cohabiting with a man. A strict interpretation of the Bible would argue that Trump’s prior marriages render her current relationship with Trump as nothing more than fornication and prostitution. There is nothing remarkable about being a gold-digging trophy wife or being willing to betray other women for personal gain. And while Bow Wow’s comments are very crude, they are remarkably honest as to her character.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/76 "2017-03-16T14:05:36Z")

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Another thread from a conservative digging up some obscure incident most of us hadn’t even heard about and claiming it proves that liberals are all hypocrites, only to have the basis for the claim shot down in flames.

Right now the current President and Republicans in both houses of Congress spew bigoted nonsense on a regular basis, and spent considerable time making vile remarks about Obama and his family. If you have to dig so deep your best example is an obscure rapper whose best years were when he was prepubescent - in an incident that, as it turns out, WAS widely condemned by liberals - I think it speaks volumes about your side of the argument.

If you want like-for-like, though, fine: I condemn Bow Wow’s remarks as crude, misogynist and horrible. Now you get to condemn Ted Nugent for everything he’s said that was similarly crude, misogynist and horrible. It might take you a year or two to get through the list, admittedly.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/77 "2017-03-16T14:06:16Z")

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> [@Ambivalid](#):
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> For real. Is this, by chance, the former “Lil Bow Wow”? Awwww, he’s all growed- up. 🙂

Wiki confirms yes. It does not confirm Snoop Dog is his uncle.

Wiki also says the tweet that got **ckalli1998** worked up was deleted in less than 24 hours.

It could be liberals and feminists aren’t all outraged by this because we don’t follow Bow Wow and don’t care what his opinion is.

I suppose if you’re actively looking for things to get worked up over you can scroll through the twitter feeds of has been rappers. I think **ckalli1998** needs better hobbies.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/78 "2017-03-16T14:13:54Z")

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Right-wing pussy bursts into tears when some nobody says something stupid on Twitter.

You lot are more sensitive than a bunch of radical Islamists.

I wonder if this Bow Wow fool wants to grab her by the pussy?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/79 "2017-03-16T14:14:40Z")

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> [@BubbaDog](#):
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> I heard it’s best not to attack their disillusions. They might turn violent.

Our Kellyanne Conway wannabe needs its nose rubbed in its own shit.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/80 "2017-03-16T14:19:05Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> A “christian conservative” who has no problem making money by posing for immodest photographs and immorally cohabiting with a man. A strict interpretation of the Bible would argue that Trump’s prior marriages render her current relationship with Trump as nothing more than fornication and prostitution. There is nothing remarkable about being a gold-digging trophy wife or being willing to betray other women for personal gain. And while Bow Wow’s comments are very crude, they are remarkably honest as to her character.

Strangely, even evangelicals were not disturbed by the Trumps’ past behavior.

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