# Where is the liberal and feminist outrage over misogynistic attacks on Melania Trump by Bow Wow? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 16, 2017, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295 "2017-03-16T05:41:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/141 "2017-03-16T18:33:11Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Well, ckalli obviously supports the insults directed against Michelle Obama because he’s had a chance to condemn them and has chosen not to. > > tsk tsk, ckalli… you, and by extension all other conservatives/Republicans/Trump supporters, are clearly misogynists. I condemned them repeatedly as vile, amigo. There’s no way you missed it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/142 "2017-03-16T18:33:43Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > You damn well know the RNC doesn’t support sexual assault. However, I do want to make clear that I thank every single one of you who has condemned Bow Wow’s misogyny. Also, Michelle Obama was subjected to racist attacks, yes, and I was offended by them, but didn’t always hear about them since they came from low-level trolls and the like. You don’t consider Bow Wow some “low-level troll”? Because I certainly do. Dude’s a loser. > [@Debillw3](#): > > Heck, it wasn’t until recent history that the First Lady “did” anything other than exist. Much like the Vice Presidency, the role is defined by the person holding it, rather than its own virtues. If by “recent history” you mean the middle of the 19th century. Abigail Adams, Julia Grant, Dolley Madison, Lucy Hayes, Edith Roosevelt, etc. I wouldn’t call them “recent”. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/143 "2017-03-16T18:37:16Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I condemned them repeatedly as vile, amigo. There’s no way you missed it. You call _that_ condemnation? A single adjective? Insufficient condemnation is obviously a flimsy mask for loving and adoring praise, ckalli. At least plagiarize someone else’s condemnation, if you can’t summon your own. You have to prove you’re serious, if you want to be taken seriously. ---
**Author:** ![JackieLikesVariety](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackielikesvariety/32/296_2.png) [@JackieLikesVariety](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JackieLikesVariety)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/144 "2017-03-16T18:39:13Z")
> [@](#): > > I’ve wondered if Barron isn’t one of the children the better boarding schools blacklist because the child’s parents are too much trouble to deal with. that’s interesting, we’ll see if that poor boy ever goes off to college. I don’t mean poor in the financial sense, of course, but just look at what his half-brothers turned into. they need a role model for being male and decent: where could they find that? ☹ > [@](#): > > There’s no way you missed it. I missed it but then I don’t read his posts. so I only see them if you quote him. ---
**Author:** ![neofishboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/neofishboy/32/444_2.png) [@neofishboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/neofishboy)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/145 "2017-03-16T18:42:01Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > I condemned them repeatedly as vile, amigo. There’s no way you missed it. And yet I find it quite telling that the post was made on January 20th and it took you until now to “condemn” it. Odd, that. ---
**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/146 "2017-03-16T18:44:58Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Rubbish. I suggest you actually do some research on Christianity (and most of the world’s) attitude on children. John Wesley is especially cute when he derides children as natural atheists and suggests starving them until they appreciate g\_d. The doting mother is very much an invention of the Romantic Era, reinforced by the Victorians to perpetuate the segregation of middle class women from paying work. Other First Ladies have had children while in their husbands were in White House and they managed to fulfill their duties. Maybe Mrs. Trump du jour is afraid someone in Washington will recognize her from the call girl circuit? ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/147 "2017-03-16T18:46:28Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > … Kinda wish we could hold the _ **PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA** _ to a similar standard. Yes. The Trumpists condemn random thugs and citizens for doing similar things to what the President does. :smack: If **ckalli1998** wants to engage me in dialog, he’ll need to preface his posts with a solid condemnation of Trump, or I’ll consider his messages just to be more right-wing jerking-off. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/148 "2017-03-16T19:05:47Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > And yet you were perfectly willing to assume all liberals were fine with what Bow Wow said. I remember when the Melanie photos came out during the campaign and there was a bit of “slut shaming” going on, there were a lot of liberals in my Facebook feed who were very much against this type of rhetoric towards Melania. While I have no way of knowing if my friends represent a fair cross-section of liberal thought, I would be very much surprised if the vast majority of liberals are okay with Bow Wow’s tweet. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/149 "2017-03-16T19:08:34Z")
> [@septimus](#): > > If **ckalli1998** wants to engage me in dialog, he’ll need to preface his posts with a solid condemnation of Trump, or I’ll consider his messages just to be more right-wing jerking-off. I’m considering writing a condemnation of Trump that ckalli can plagiarize and pass off as his own, if this will move things along. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/150 "2017-03-16T19:11:29Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > She’s staying with her son Barron to be with him as a mother as he is finishing the school year in New York. That is a very Christian-like and motherly thing to do. That also sounds Muslim-like, Jewish-like, Hindu-like, atheist-like, agnostic-like, human-like, and even mammal-like. The bar has gotten pretty low, folks. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/151 "2017-03-16T19:14:35Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > And yet another sexist pig. Says the (plagiarizing and gutless) guy who says someone’s not a lady because she criticized the Trumps. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/152 "2017-03-16T19:19:21Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > She’s staying with her son Barron to be with him as a mother as he is finishing the school year in New York. That is a very Christian-like and motherly thing to do. Whatever. Your scumbag rapist president’s trophy wife should be kicked off the public dime and the money used to fund the CPB, Meals-on-Wheels, the NEH, and the NEA. Who cares if it’s a Christian thing to do? So are being a bigot and handling snakes. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/153 "2017-03-16T19:34:20Z")
> [@neofishboy](#): > > I’m sure there are more, but [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19936633&postcount=120) is the most recent one I remembered. > > Nearly two months later, the number of board conservatives who have denounced this post: 0. Nah: **Bone** issued a warning for that nasty bit of hate speech, and he’s definitely a conservative. He’s a good egg, the kind of conservative I’m happy to disagree with, though. There’s a pretty clear difference between his principled opposition to what I believe, and the shit-flinging that **ckalli** likes to pretend he’s not doing. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > I do condemn them. But I just think it’s interesting that Planned Parenthood, NARAL and the other liberal women’s groups are keeping their lips zipped over this, just like they and Pelosi did over Cedric Richmond’s comments So here’s the thing: 1. Bow Wow made a vile comment implying that he’d force a woman into sexual slavery where she’d be repeatedly raped, as a way of enacting vengeance against a man. 2. Planned Parenthood and NARAL focus on protecting reproductive freedom; NARAL more specifically focuses on the right to choose abortion. 3. I presume they’d be happy to protect your right to your abortion of an argument, but otherwise they have nothing to do with this issue. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/154 "2017-03-16T19:47:21Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > \*[URL=“[Bow Wow | Mediaite](http://www.mediaite.com/online/bow-wow-threatens-to-pimp-first-lady-over-trumps-tweet-about-snoop-dogg/)”]Ayo @realDonaldTrump shut your punk ass up talking shit about my uncle @SnoopDogg before we pimp your wife and make her work for us. On the one hand that’s really bad. But on the other hand, if he keeps it up, he has a real shot at the Republican nomination in 2020. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/155 "2017-03-16T19:48:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Says the (plagiarizing and gutless) guy who says someone’s not a lady because she criticized the Trumps. No, Helena left a gratuitous tweet saying the fact that we had a “first lady” was news to her, implying that Melania is not a real lady. ---
**Author:** ![ckalli1998](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a3d4f5/32.png) [@ckalli1998](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ckalli1998)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/156 "2017-03-16T19:49:52Z")
> [@Evil\_Economist](#): > > On the one hand that’s really bad. But on the other hand, if he keeps it up, he has a real shot at the Republican nomination in 2020. Nope. The Republican base will not like someone who makes sexist remarks about our wonderful Republican First Lady. Nice try, bruh ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/157 "2017-03-16T19:50:19Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > No, Helena left a gratuitous tweet saying the fact that we had a “first lady” was news to her, implying that Melania is not a real lady. You didn’t preface this with a condemnation of Trump, therefore it doesn’t count. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Economist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c89c15/32.png) [@Evil\_Economist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Economist)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/158 "2017-03-16T19:53:36Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > Nope. The Republican base will not like someone who makes sexist remarks about our wonderful Republican First Lady. Nice try, bruh Well, on the one hand she \*is \*white. But on the other hand she’s a woman. So…I’m thinking this could go either way really easily. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/159 "2017-03-16T19:58:20Z")
> [@ckalli1998](#): > > No, Helena left a gratuitous tweet saying the fact that we had a “first lady” was news to her, implying that Melania is not a real lady. Helena didn’t tweet, she posted. You got a very different implication than I got: I inferred she was snarking about Melania Trump’s continued residence in NYC. The first lady has traditionally lived and worked in the White House; Melania’s absence from that place looks like an abdication of that role. She may have been saying Melania’s not a real lady, but I didn’t read it that way. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2017, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295/160 "2017-03-16T19:59:34Z")
> [@Helena330](#): > > We have a first lady? Coulda fooled me. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > Melania is certainly more of a lady than you’ll ever be, Helena. > [@ckalli1998](#): > > No, Helena left a gratuitous tweet saying the fact that we had a “first lady” was news to her, implying that Melania is not a real lady. You DO realize this ain’t Twitter, right? And there are multiple ways to read the POST (again, not a tweet) and you chose to respond insulting Helena because you felt Melania Trump was insulted on a personal level. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-liberal-and-feminist-outrage-over-misogynistic-attacks-on-melania-trump-by-bow-wow/782295.md?page=9)