# Where is the outrage?!! (Ben Carson - Muslims unfit to be POTUS) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 20, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007 "2015-09-20T20:27:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/241 "2015-09-24T23:10:02Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > Oh My! I’m devastated. How will I be able to get 8 hours of sleep tonight? :eek: > > Bwahahahaha. :rolleyes: Good question. Are you a mouth breather? If so, I would recommend trying it with your mouth shut. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2015, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/242 "2015-09-24T23:49:52Z")
> [@Hooleehootoo](#): > > Here we have a thread that is all about calling Carson a hateful bigot because of what he said about Muslims. Is there no irony in people saying “If you substitute Christian for Muslim, it is fine” ? You do recognize, I hope, that you are not looking at the same people. Multiple people have posted to this thread. Some embrace religion, but find Carson’s ignorance and hatred distressing in a presidential candidatel. Some support him in his ignorance. Others may have no religious attachments and choose to criticize or defends him. And a few poster’s are so opposed to religious beliefs, entirely, that they have staked out a totally different position on the topic. Making broad brush claims about other posters without knowing their perspective and attributing their beliefs to posters that have not expressed the same ideas does nothing to promote whatever argument you are trying to make. ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/243 "2015-09-25T00:54:11Z")
> **[To This Secular Muslim, Ben Carson Had a Point](https://www.thedailybeast.com/to-this-secular-muslim-ben-carson-had-a-point)** > > Take it from someone who’s been fighting it her whole adult life: The sad truth is that too many Muslims want to mix mosque and state. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/244 "2015-09-25T02:01:07Z")
> **[Terrifying new poll: Nearly 1 in 3 Iowa Republicans thinks Islam should be...](https://www.salon.com/2015/09/22/terrifying_new_poll_nearly_1_in_3_iowa_republicans_think_islam_should_be_illegal/)** > > Public Policy Polling survey lays bare the bigotry Donald Trump and Ben Carson are tapping into According to this _Salon_ poll, one in three Iowa Republicans believe Islam should be illegal. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/245 "2015-09-25T13:22:24Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > [To This Secular Muslim, Ben Carson Had a Point](http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/24/to-this-secular-muslim-ben-carson-had-a-point.html) She’s entitled to her view, of course. But she’s dumb as fuck. Even assuming for the sake of argument that many Muslims want to mix church and state, it doesn’t mean a thing about their eligibility for office. Mike Huckabee has dynamited the division between the two but nobody says _he_’s unfit or ineligible for office. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/246 "2015-09-25T13:24:42Z")
I do. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/247 "2015-09-25T14:03:48Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > No one from CAIR has claimed that Carson’s Christianity makes him ineligible for the office. Your statement is dumb. > It is his failure to understand the Constitution and his promotion of religious bigotry that makes him ineligible and CAIR has a right to point out both of those issues. Those things may make Carson UNSUITABLE for office, but not ineligible. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/248 "2015-09-25T14:32:58Z")
> [@doorhinge](#): > > However, it’s the supporters of radical, fanatical, Islam, such as CAIR, who do not understand that there is no religious test for those running for the WH. It’s CAIR who has said that Carson should not run for POTUS. Kids, can you say “false equivalency”? I knew you couldn’t! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/249 "2015-09-25T14:39:07Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > [http://www.salon.com/2015/09/22/terrifying\_new\_poll\_nearly\_1\_in\_3\_iowa\_republicans\_think\_islam\_should\_be\_illegal/](http://www.salon.com/2015/09/22/terrifying_new_poll_nearly_1_in_3_iowa_republicans_think_islam_should_be_illegal/) > > According to this _Salon_ poll, one in three Iowa Republicans believe Islam should be illegal. Nit pick: 30% of _caucus voters_, which is a small subset of “Republicans”. Sort of an odd poll in that they polled both Republican and Democratic likely voters, but only Republicans were asked that question (or, if Democrats were asked it, the results were not published). ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/250 "2015-09-25T17:38:06Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Are they the same people? Indeed-I think the hatred expressed for Dr. Carson is merely thinly disguised racism…after all, liberals cannot accept that a successful, highly intelligent black man could be a conservative.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/251 "2015-09-25T18:01:57Z")
Yeah. Makes perfect sense. Joe Liberal defends the right of a Muslim to be President because… black guy. ---
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/252 "2015-09-25T18:07:18Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Indeed-I think the hatred expressed for Dr. Carson is merely thinly disguised racism…after all, liberals cannot accept that a successful, highly intelligent black man could be a conservative.:mad: Jesus are you capable of writing a single post that isn’t fucking dumb and a waste of pixels? Right, of _course_ it’s racism, because if Ben Carson were white and saying the same things, we’d be applauding him. …Except many of these slack-jawed, looney-toon, sociopathic Republicans who have the utter hubris to believe they’re capable of being president say similar anti-Muslim bullshit _all the time,_ and we liberals say the _same exact things about them._ Why should Ben Carson get a bye just because he’s black? ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/253 "2015-09-25T18:17:53Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Indeed-I think the hatred expressed for Dr. Carson is merely thinly disguised racism…after all, liberals cannot accept that a successful, highly intelligent black man could be a conservative.:mad: Lullaby excessive dump hash blurt dumb? Vibrator useless dexterity bleep graphic disbeliever! ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/254 "2015-09-25T19:08:21Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Indeed-I think the hatred expressed for Dr. Carson is merely thinly disguised racism…after all, liberals cannot accept that a successful, highly intelligent black man could be a conservative.:mad: Oh, so conservatism means hatred of Muslims? Well, bleeding heart liberal [Charles Krauthammer](http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/krauthammer-carsons-muslim-comments-morally-outrageous/article/2572811) disagrees with you. I read the column this morning, and besides the mandatory slap at Democrats, it was well reasoned. I was shocked. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/255 "2015-09-25T19:12:01Z")
Krauthammer is Jewish. He understands how slippery that slope is. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/256 "2015-09-25T19:13:04Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Indeed-I think the hatred expressed for Dr. Carson is merely thinly disguised racism…after all, liberals cannot accept that a successful, highly intelligent black man could be a conservative.:mad: I would assume this was a parody except for the identity of the poster. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/257 "2015-09-25T19:18:00Z")
Gasp! He’s got liberal hypocrisy! We are _undone!_ ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/258 "2015-09-25T21:10:37Z")
[quote=“choie, post:252, topic:732007”] Jesus are you capable of writing a single post that isn’t fucking dumb and a waste of pixels? Right, of _course_ it’s racism, because if Ben Carson were white and saying the same things, we’d be applauding him. I have been called many things, but Jesus is a first!😕 ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/259 "2015-10-08T20:31:25Z")
[quote=“ralph124c, post:258, topic:732007”] > [@choie](#): > > Jesus are you capable of writing a single post that isn’t fucking dumb and a waste of pixels? Right, of _course_ it’s racism, because if Ben Carson were white and saying the same things, we’d be applauding him. > > I have been called many things, but Jesus is a first!😕 Maybe it’s because you just bought a leaf-blower. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/260 "2015-10-09T12:27:03Z")
> [@andros](#): > > Lullaby excessive dump hash blurt dumb? Vibrator useless dexterity bleep graphic disbeliever! What is this? A million monkeys pounding away on typewriters? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007.md?page=14)