# Where is the outrage?!! (Ben Carson - Muslims unfit to be POTUS) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 20, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007 "2015-09-20T20:27:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![davida03801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5e925/32.png) [@davida03801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davida03801)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/61 "2015-09-21T16:43:51Z")
Yawn. So what? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/62 "2015-09-21T16:48:42Z")
It is rumored that whoever wins this colossal goat fuck will be well positioned to take enormous power into their hands. It would be better for all concerned if said person is not certifiably batshit. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Greenjeans](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mr.greenjeans/32/551_2.png) [@Mr.Greenjeans](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Greenjeans)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/63 "2015-09-21T17:10:41Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > Well, not really, but I bet I could if I wanted to. Antisemitism isn’t really my cup of tea. It’s Muslims who really grind my gears. > > [snip] > > I don’t really understand the point of cataloging every plot device and trope ever used in film. I don’t really understand your hatred of a large group of people for the actions of a few. And if you dislike Muslims, it’s probably not a huge leap to antisemitism (whenever a Jewish person “grinds your gears”). ---
**Author:** ![GrumpyBunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bc8723/32.png) [@GrumpyBunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrumpyBunny)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/64 "2015-09-21T17:13:54Z")
A whole bunch of Americans secretly (or not so secretly) don’t want a black guy to be president, either. Someone should mention this to Dr. Carson. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/65 "2015-09-21T17:30:31Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > This is a prime opportunity for a sane, responsible Republican candidate to use as his own Sister Souljah Moment. > > But none are. First let’s see Hillary Clinton say something. Looks like she did focus group first, because today she comes out with a general statement urging Republican candidates to “not light fires of paranoia”, which is a pretty safe and sideways way to approach what Carson said. I guess her focus groups found a lot of agreement with Carson. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/66 "2015-09-21T17:41:12Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > First let’s see Hillary Clinton say something. Looks like she did focus group first, because today she comes out with a general statement urging Republican candidates to “not light fires of paranoia”, which is a pretty safe and sideways way to approach what Carson said. And what are Carson’s fellow Republicans saying? You don’t know what a Sister Souljah Moment even is, do you? > [@](#): > > I guess her focus groups found a lot of agreement with Carson. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/67 "2015-09-21T17:49:37Z")
[Here, did some of your homework for ya](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted-cruz-ben-carson-muslim_56000008e4b08820d91939e6): > [@](#): > > “You know, the Constitution specifies there shall be no religious test for public office and I am a constitutionalist,” Cruz said on Iowa public television. He also again declined to weigh in on President Barack Obama’s faith, saying it was a matter between him and God. > > Earlier Sunday, Graham reacted to Carson’s remarks on Twitter by claiming the doctor “is not ready to be Commander-In-Chief. America is an idea, not owned by a particular religion.” > > The presidential hopeful further called on Carson to apologize to American Muslims, arguing that although Carson was a “good doctor,” he was “clearly not prepared to lead a great nation.” But among the still-hopefuls? Who among them has even swung at this softball? Oh, what the hell, here’s your boy Bobby the Exorcist (same link): > [@](#): > > “If you can find me a Muslim candidate who is a Republican, who will fight hard to protect religious liberty, who will respect the Judeo-Christian heritage of America, who will be committed to destroying ISIS and radical Islam, who will condemn cultures that treat women as second class citizens and who will **place their hand on the Bible and swear to uphold the Constitution** , then yes, I will be happy to consider voting for him or her,” he said. “If you can’t, I’ll settle for voting for a Christian Governor from Louisiana.” Um, yes, the Bible … :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/68 "2015-09-21T17:56:49Z")
McCain got booed at his own rally for suggesting that Obama wasn’t an “Arab”. He got booed again for suggesting that Obama was a decent human being. The loonies have been running the show for a long time. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/69 "2015-09-21T18:29:59Z")
> [@Cheesesteak](#): > > McCain got booed at his own rally for suggesting that Obama wasn’t an “Arab”. He got booed again for suggesting that Obama was a decent human being. > > The loonies have been running the show for a long time. Notwithstanding his more recent saner behaviour, McCain is as responsible as anyone for the loonies having the power they do. By putting Sarah Palin in the spotlight - by endorsing her and her views as being appropriate for a VP and thus by extension to POTUS - he lit a fire that no-one seems capable of extinguishing. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/70 "2015-09-21T19:34:23Z")
That’s a pretty stupid and assholish thing to say from Carson. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/71 "2015-09-21T19:47:32Z")
> [@Bone](#): > > That’s a pretty stupid and assholish thing to say from Carson. Assholish, most certainly. Whether it was stupid or not will be shown by the next polls that come out. Unless there is a groundswell of non-assholes that rise up and vote this election cycle, the “angry/ignorant asshole” niche might pay off for him and the other Republicans that seem to aiming for the lowest common denominator. ---
**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/72 "2015-09-21T19:58:36Z")
> [@KarlGauss](#): > > Notwithstanding his more recent saner behaviour, McCain is as responsible as anyone for the loonies having the power they do. Agreed, and at the time there was a bit of recognition that he was just reaping what he had sown. ---
**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/73 "2015-09-21T20:04:55Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Assholish, most certainly. Whether it was stupid or not will be shown by the next polls that come out. Unless there is a groundswell of non-assholes that rise up and vote this election cycle, the “angry/ignorant asshole” niche might pay off for him and the other Republicans that seem to aiming for the lowest common denominator. _Seem_ to be aiming? ---
**Author:** ![F.U.Shakespeare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aca169/32.png) [@F.U.Shakespeare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/F.U.Shakespeare)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/74 "2015-09-21T20:25:31Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh, what the hell, here’s your boy Bobby the Exorcist (same link):Um, yes, the Bible … :rolleyes: Wow, a real-life governor of Louisiana imitates the governor in “The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas”: “It behooves the Jews and the Ay-rabs to solve their problems in a Christian manner” ---
**Author:** ![Ennui](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ennui/32/3396_2.png) [@Ennui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ennui)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/75 "2015-09-21T20:48:17Z")
Just priceless: **Ben Carson Shattering Stereotype About Brain Surgeons Being Smart** > [@](#): > > WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Brain surgeons, long burdened with the onerous reputation of being among the smartest people in the world, are expressing relief that the Republican Presidential candidate Ben Carson is shattering that stereotype once and for all. [[Link]](http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ben-carson-shattering-stereotype-about-brain-surgeons-being-smart?mbid=social_facebook) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/76 "2015-09-21T21:05:18Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > First let’s see Hillary Clinton say something. Looks like she did focus group first, because today she comes out with a general statement urging Republican candidates to “not light fires of paranoia”, which is a pretty safe and sideways way to approach what Carson said. > > I guess her focus groups found a lot of agreement with Carson. :rolleyes: And if or when she says something, your next post will be claiming that she is simply piling on in partisan fashion. This is an internal Republican issue and the Democrats need do no more than shake their heads or point and laugh, because regardless of what any Democrat says, Republican partisans are going to claim it is nothing but politics. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/77 "2015-09-21T21:05:42Z")
Oh shit. Now the GOP is going to get a bunch of Rocket Scientists announcing they’re candidates!! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/78 "2015-09-21T21:08:02Z")
> [@Boyo\_Jim](#): > > Was Reagan chopped liver? He was the main purveyor of “Government can’t solve the problem. Government IS the problem.” He set the tone for practically all Republicans since. He was absolute poison to the very concept of responsible governemt and rulemaking through deliberate ignorance. My presentation was awesome and you should be honored to have read it. (:D) I gave Reagan a sentence: “Sure, Reagan had rhetorically boosted supply side crackpottery and formed close ties with anti-science evangelicals.” I think boosting supply side crackpottery is a greater sin than saying “Government IS the problem.” Also that sort of thing would have been just political rhetoric if it wasn’t amplified 10 million times by talk radio, which came later. I used to place Reagan as the central fulcrum in all of this. But he didn’t really attack our constitutional system. He drove very hard bargains but in the end was willing to compromise if he was getting most of what he wanted. His lasting damage was elevating crackpottery into public consciousness (worst in economic policy) as well as political power (ketchup is a vegetable, Edwin Meese, James Watt) - but that shortchanges Nixon’s southern strategy. I say Gingrich is the fulcrum. The older system generally kept the adults in charge. But when compromise becomes something _undesirable_ then you are _guaranteeing_ incompetence in government. Which I say without hyperbole is part of the point. ---
**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/79 "2015-09-21T22:39:32Z")
Actually, of all the responses, I haven’t seen a single one that actually says that it would be fine for a Muslim to be President. Courage is not the watchword of the day, apparently. Ted Cruz actually came the closest in either party. Wasserman’s statement was addressing something Carson never even said. She supported the right of a Muslim to run(who doesn’t?), without endorsing the idea of a Muslim President. Carson is no longer the story. Everyone else in the political class is. This is just sad. How hard is it to just say, “I believe a Muslim can be President”? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2015, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007/80 "2015-09-21T22:39:36Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I did not know that about him. > > Come to think of it, it might be amusing, some Thanksgiving, to see him pardoning a tofurkey… Adventists are vegetarian? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-the-outrage-ben-carson-muslims-unfit-to-be-potus/732007.md?page=5)