# Where is this April 1, 2020 reopening timeframe coming from? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Quarantine Zone\ **Tags:** covid-quarantine\ **Created:** [March 23, 2020, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116 "2020-03-23T20:08:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/21 "2020-03-24T15:58:34Z")
> [@mjmlabs](#): > > Pretty sure the statements should not be parsed “We will reopen April 1st,” which seems to be how the OP takes them, but rather “We will definitely not be reopening before April 1st; that’s what we know for certain right now.” If/When local authorities extend the shutdown for those businesses, I betcha the outgoing voicemails will change. Well, here’s what I have (paraphrased) > [@](#): > > We anticipate that the [school district] will continue digital > learning and teleworking through at least March 31st given the announcement from > Governor Shithead on March 16, 2020 and potentially through Spring Break (April 6-10, > 2020). > [@](#): > > Effective immediately, our facilities are closed until April 1st. Members will be credited for that time. > [@](#): > > Effective immediately, our doors are closed until March 31st at the earliest > [@](#): > > After careful consideration, our facility has been closed until April 1st And for what it’s worth, Governor Shithead announced on 3/16 that all school districts would be closed. So I guess in our state, it’s clear that everyone is keying off Governor Shithead, but it’s curious that Trump and Governnor Shithead and everyone else is working off the same 15-day timeline established around 3/16. I’m wondering where that came from. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/22 "2020-03-24T16:08:31Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > … but it’s curious that Trump and Governnor Shithead and everyone else is working off the same 15-day timeline established around 3/16. I’m wondering where that came from. Probably from the same place as [this weather map](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/map-flap-trump-displays-altered-weather-map-showing/story?id=65384094). ---
**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/23 "2020-03-24T16:14:21Z")
Aha, never mind, I found it. [The President’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America: 15 days to control the spread](https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf) It seems like the 15 day number was supposed to be aspirational propaganda, but some people are taking it literally. My county and state seem to be laying ground to walk back from the 15-day expectation. ---
**Author:** ![mjmlabs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mjmlabs/32/69_2.png) [@mjmlabs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mjmlabs)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/24 "2020-03-24T16:24:31Z")
> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#): > > Aha, never mind, I found it. > > [The President’s Coronavirus Guidelines for America: 15 days to control the spread](https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/03.16.20_coronavirus-guidance_8.5x11_315PM.pdf) Right. There’s also this, from 45\*'s [televised remarks of March 16th](https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-3/): > [@](#): > > Issued on: March 16, 2020 > > James S. Brady Press Briefing Room > > 3:21 P.M. EDT > > THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. Thank you. So, I’m glad to see that you’re practicing social distancing. That looks very nice. It’s very good. > > I want to thank everybody for being here today. This morning I spoke with the leaders of the G7 — G7 nations — and they really had a good meeting. I think it was a very, very productive meeting. I also spoke with our nation’s governors. > > This afternoon, we’re announcing new guidelines for every American to follow over the next 15 days as we combat the virus. Each and every one of us has a critical role to play in stopping the spread and transmission of the virus. We did this today, and this was done by a lot of very talented people, some of whom are standing with me. And that’s available. And Dr. Birx will be speaking about that in just a few minutes. > > It’s important for the young and healthy people to understand that while they may experience milder symptoms, they can easily spread this virus, and they will spread it indeed, putting countless others in harm’s way. We especially worry about our senior citizens. > > The White House Task Force meets every day and continually updates guidelines based on the fast-evolving situation that this has become all over the world. It’s all over the world. It’s incredible what’s happened in such a short period of time. > > On the guidelines of the task force, the new modeling conducted by Dr. Birx, and our consultation with governors, we’ve made the decision to further toughen the guidelines and blunt the infection now. We’d much rather be ahead of the curve than behind it, and that’s what we are. Therefore, my administration is recommending that all Americans, including the young and healthy, work to engage in schooling from home when possible. Avoid gathering in groups of more than 10 people. Avoid discretionary travel. And avoid eating and drinking at bars, restaurants, and public food courts. > > If everyone makes this change or these critical changes and sacrifices now, we will rally together as one nation and we will defeat the virus. And we’re going to have a big celebration all together. > > With several weeks of focused action, we can turn the corner and turn it quickly. A lot of progress has been made. I’m also pleased to report today that a vaccine candidate has begun the phase one clinical trial. This is one of the fastest vaccine development launches in history. Not even close. We’re also racing to develop antiviral therapies and other treatments. And we’ve had some promising results — early results, but promising — to reduce the severity and the duration of the synd- — of the symptoms. > > And I have to say that our government is prepared to do whatever it takes. Whatever it takes, we’re doing. We’re doing it in every way. > > And with that, I’d like to just introduce Dr. Birx, who’s going to discuss some of the things that we strongly recommend. > > Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/25 "2020-03-24T16:44:50Z")
As much as I hate to say it, Trump is right. A full longterm lockdown is not feasible. Eventually (and quickly) it will snap. A phased reopening is probably the way to go. Maybe allow the reopening of businesses provided they have certain guidelines to mitigate risk. Everyone must wear N95 type masks and latex or plastic gloves outside. Coffee shops can open, but only serve “to go” not shut down. Parks remain closed, or only walking permitted, no sitting down. Sanitation departments identify and clean likely hotspots for viruses. Offices and schools have instructions to wipe down desks, door handles, and other likely virus gathering areas. Maybe police forces are given authority to check people’s temperatures…yes I know civil liberties, but might be the only option. There won’t be still will be an increase in cases and adverse outcomes, but possibly a manageable one. Since, sure people might not snap on 1st of April. But possibly will on 10th April. Absolutely before 1st of May. Only an idiot will think this can be managed till the 1st of June. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/26 "2020-03-24T17:09:33Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > As much as I hate to say it, Trump is right. A full longterm lockdown is not feasible. Eventually (and quickly) it will snap. A full lockdown isn’t feasible even in the short term. Ontario has ordered all businesses to close except those providing “essential products or services” and if [you scroll down the list](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-list-essential-businesses-1.5507687), the number of exempted businesses is very long, especially when you consider it includes the supply chain for essential businesses and the entire transportation sector. ---
**Author:** ![RioRico](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f04885/32.png) [@RioRico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RioRico)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/27 "2020-03-24T21:26:25Z")
Whose interests are served by millions of American deaths? Might Putin’s puppy be behaving exactly as he’s told to? ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/28 "2020-03-24T21:38:45Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > 500 deaths in the country and big brother tactics being taken? I am starting to believe the conspiracy people. Dude, it’s now how many are dead now. It’s how many could be. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/29 "2020-03-24T21:41:03Z")
> [@SuntanLotion](#): > > 500 deaths in the country and big brother tactics being taken? I am starting to believe the conspiracy people. Three weeks ago that number was 2. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116/30 "2020-03-24T21:42:50Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > A full lockdown isn’t feasible even in the short term. Ontario has ordered all businesses to close except those providing “essential products or services” and if [you scroll down the list](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-list-essential-businesses-1.5507687), the number of exempted businesses is very long, especially when you consider it includes the supply chain for essential businesses and the entire transportation sector. Doug Ford is getting some shit for this, but I don’t see what else they can do. Every business on the list is pretty justifiable. If you want to keep a grocery store running you’d better keep open farms, food processing plants, packaging factories, label manufacturers, all the utilities, all the supply chain companies, the payroll company that pays all those employees… it’s just a giant list. I mean, you could also get in there and fine slice a bit; I think it’s justifiable that pet shops open because if you tell people Rover and Snowball have to starve they’ll riot. But I’m not sure Petsmart needs to be selling cat toys and tropical fish, and would suggest the government needs to come up with rules on limiting hours and providing employees with masks if they become available, and enforcing social distancing rules in-store. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-is-this-april-1-2020-reopening-timeframe-coming-from/850116.md?page=1)