# where it is just not the main character

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**Created:** [February 19, 2017, 3:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205 "2017-02-19T03:02:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205/41 "2017-02-20T19:51:01Z")

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As a counter-example, “M_A_S\*H” worked fine with Hawkeye as an interesting protagonist, as opposed to just a straight man, someone who could (and, once, did) carry an entire episode on his own as the main protagonist of the whole series. Of course, Hawk could also (and, often, did) act like a straight man to the _really_ nutty people and events around him.

I disagree that “Star Trek” was all about Kirk and Spock: It was all about the power trio of Kirk, Spock, and Bones, with each of them forming one side of the discussion about what the plan would be: Spock was the voice of reason, Bones was the emotion and conscience, and Kirk had to mediate the extremes and decide on a specific course. Really, it’s proof that Freudian psychology works better as drama than treatment.

Oh, and Kirk wasn’t a flat character. He was a classic trickster hero, relying more on subterfuge and negotiation but being capable of fighting.

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205/42 "2017-02-20T20:06:47Z")

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I never found Gilligan all that interesting, compared to the other castaways. Annoying, yes. interesting, no.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205/43 "2017-02-20T20:14:17Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> As a counter-example, “M_A_S\*H” worked fine with Hawkeye as an interesting protagonist, as opposed to just a straight man, someone who could (and, once, did) carry an entire episode on his own as the main protagonist of the whole series.

Well, sure. At that, MONK was built around Tony Shalhoub carrying episodes as the oddball playing off his level-headed assistant and the hardworking cop who genuinely respects his abilities – and, granted, Randy Disher is pretty much just there to serve as comic relief, but he’s still less eccentric than Adrian Monk.

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**Author:** ![Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d9b06d/32.png) [@Boozahol\_Squid\_P.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boozahol_Squid_P.I)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205/44 "2017-02-20T20:36:25Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> The worst and most boring character on **How I Met Your Mother** was the character who was the narrator and also all of the stories revolved around his dating life. His friends and his girlfriends were way more interesting.

My wife occasionally uses the example of Ted Mosby to remind me that being from Cleveland is far more boring than I think it is. ☹

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**Author:** ![erysichthon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d07c76/32.png) [@erysichthon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erysichthon)\
**Post date:** [February 20, 2017, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205/45 "2017-02-20T20:47:16Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> Yeah, Armie Hammer’s Lone Ranger was a pretty bland character, next to that one guy who played Tonto.

When I saw the title of this thread, Johnny Depp’s Tonto was the first example I thought of. I couldn’t even remember (until seeing the name in your post) who played the Lone Ranger, or anything he said or did in the movie.

Likewise, Disney’s _Aladdin_ seems to be mostly about Robin Williams’s genie, and secondarily about Jafar and the Gilbert Gottfried parrot character. Wait a minute, was Aladdin even _in_ that movie?

Remember _Caddyshack_? That was all about Rodney Dangerfield and Ted Knight, right? I think there was a caddy character in there too, but I can’t remember anything about him.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-it-is-just-not-the-main-character/780205/46 "2017-02-21T02:38:42Z")

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I am kind of torn on Deckard. Ford did a pretty awesome job of making him seem Spade-like (Hammetesque?), but a fair amount of humanity leaked out around around the edges. Really, again, I think the city was a more significant character than any of the people.

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