# Where might Trump go?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 12, 2021, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300 "2021-01-12T00:22:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/61 "2021-01-13T13:02:09Z")

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Here’s a [list](https://www.wsfa.com/story/22665099/countries-with-no-extradition-treaty-with-us/) of countries that don’t have an extradition treaty with the US. Most of those countries are insufficiently white/rich to please Trump.

Russia doesn’t extradite, but has no Trump property, and I can’t imagine he’d feel terribly safe what with all the Novichok nerve agent floating around.

Dubai is another possibility. UAE doesn’t have an extradition treaty. It’s more Muslim than he’d probably prefer, but it’s a stable, wealthy international city. There is a Trump International Golf Club in Dubai. The Trump admin has done a lot of ~~grifting~~ diplomacy with the Gulf states, so it seems like he’s prepared to maintain a long-term relationship with them.

So, if he does a run for the border, right now I’d see Dubai as a front-runner.

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**Author:** ![Toxylon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f05b48/32.png) [@Toxylon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Toxylon)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/62 "2021-01-13T13:28:58Z")

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I’d pay to see Trump literally, actually, _run_ for the border.

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/63 "2021-01-13T14:57:38Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> So, if he does a run for the border, right now I’d see Dubai as a front-runner.

Now here is something we can agree upon and I believe this the best case scenario for him as well.

This would suit Trump because Jared has been preparing things in the middle east politically for him for several years now. That and he is all for chopping up his opponents into little pieces taking them away in diplomatic pouches, just his style. He has bent over backwards to befriend them and now is the time to call in his markers. Although not Muslim he is not Christian either and could easily find an acceptable bubble to exist and operate in over there (his property).

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/64 "2021-01-13T15:02:44Z")

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Hey, it’s a community effort 🕶

And Discourse can go nag itself about how many times I reply to how many people.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/65 "2021-01-13T15:10:42Z")

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How would giving sanctuary to an international pariah jibe with…

> **[Tourism in Dubai](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Dubai?wprov=sfti1)**
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> Dubai is one of the world's leading tourism destinations, and tourism in Dubai is a major source of revenue. The city hosted 14.9 million overnight visitors in 2016. In 2018, Dubai was the fourth most-visited city in the world based on the number of international visitors.
> The discovery of oil in 1966 kick-started the development of present Dubai, however Sheikh Rashid bin Saeed Al Maktoum (ruler from 1958 till 1990) realised one day Dubai would ...

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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/66 "2021-01-13T15:50:09Z")

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> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> How would giving sanctuary to an international pariah jibe with…

I feel a corrupt petro-state has plenty of experience accommodating wealthy pariahs. Of course, the wealth factor is a big wild-card for now.

I don’t think there’s there’s any way Trump can maintain the appearance of wealth after office without doing some seriously illegal shit, stuff that would necessitate leaving the country.

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/67 "2021-01-13T17:01:04Z")

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> [@HMS\_Irruncible](#):
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> I don’t think there’s there’s any way Trump can maintain the appearance of wealth after office without doing some seriously illegal shit, stuff that would necessitate leaving the country.

[https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/business/trump-deutsche-bankers-resign/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/22/business/trump-deutsche-bankers-resign/index.html)

[https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/investing/deutsche-bank-trump/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/12/investing/deutsche-bank-trump/index.html)

Trump’s options for maintaining even a façade of wealth are looking pretty poor. Maybe Ivanka—who at least has a legitimately profitable line of tacky womenswear—can help him out, but [she and Jared have their own problems to worry about.](https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/12/09/jared-kushner-placed-under-federal-investigation-over-foreign-corruption/)

These people are making Oliver North and Bob McFarlane look like pros at international finance and running below-the-line illegal business dealings.

Stranger

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/68 "2021-01-13T17:48:46Z")

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2 posts were split to a new topic: [Squidsak trolling posts](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/squidsak-trolling-posts/930457)

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/69 "2021-01-13T21:28:04Z")

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> [@Toxylon](#):
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> I’d pay to see Trump literally, actually, _run_ for the border.

_Standing still_ he looks like a Tyrannosaur holding a burning briefcase. I’d pay to see the orange shitstain try to run.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/70 "2021-01-13T22:04:58Z")

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The OP wasn’t specifically about Trump leaving the US. Just like everybody else, the guy gotta sleep somewhere. Assuming he’s not a guest of the federal bureau of prisons or some similar state agency, where might that be?

I for one can suggest a large number of freeway overpasses he might enjoy sleeping under after the truth of his non-wealth finishes coming out.

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/71 "2021-01-13T22:24:29Z")

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> [@Kent\_Clark](#):
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> Trump got 70.3% of the vote in Wyoming.

All 12 of them?

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/72 "2021-01-13T23:03:42Z")

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> [@TreacherousCretin](#):
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> I’d pay to see the orange shitstain try to run.

we would have to invent a new word for that – “shamblope”, perhaps

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**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/73 "2021-01-13T23:31:57Z")

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Assuming he gets to keep his Secret Service protection after his impeachment trial, he can continue to boost his income by staying exclusively at his own properties and charging the government for their use of the property. I suspect he may declare Mar-A-Lago his residence, but try to just continuously travel from one property to the next, and have big rally/fundraisers continuously in places where he can draw big enough crowds.

I agree that if he moves outside the US, Dubai is a good guess.

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**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/74 "2021-01-13T23:36:48Z")

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There’s a spider hole in Iraq that’s been vacant since 2003.  
[https://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2011/top10\_evil\_lairs/saddam\_spider\_hole.jpg](https://img.timeinc.net/time/photoessays/2011/top10_evil_lairs/saddam_spider_hole.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Si\_Amigo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/si_amigo/32/2877_2.png) [@Si\_Amigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Si_Amigo)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/75 "2021-01-14T00:25:05Z")

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Could Florida deny extradition to New York or any other state on non-federal charges? He does seem to have the Governor in his pocket and will likely pardon himself and family.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/76 "2021-01-14T00:27:31Z")

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When the Deutsche Bank loans come due, he might not _have_ properties.

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**Post date:** [January 14, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/77 "2021-01-14T00:56:11Z")

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> [@Si\_Amigo](#):
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> Could Florida deny extradition to New York or any other state on non-federal charges? He does seem to have the Governor in his pocket and will likely pardon himself and family.

Technically yes but it’s usually pro forma.

Puerto Rico v Branstad lays out the few instances where one state can deny extradition to another. It’s not much.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/78 "2021-01-15T01:49:13Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I acknowledge there’s very little chance Trump will end up in prison. But if he did he would be a very high-profile prisoner. He’d be placed in a supermax so he could be protected from other prisoners.

If Trump were to get a custodial sentence I think it would likely be house arrest.

> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#):
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> How would giving sanctuary to an international pariah jibe with…

Isn’t the UAE were Saddam Hussein’s widow and daughters live?

> [@eschrodinger](#):
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> Assuming he gets to keep his Secret Service protection after his impeachment trial, he can continue to boost his income by staying exclusively at his own properties and charging the government for their use of the property.

He won’t have any power over the Secret Service outside of his own detail; couldn’t the agency just refuse to pay above whatever the government rate is for hotels?

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/79 "2021-01-15T17:37:14Z")

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> [@alphaboi867](#):
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> Isn’t the UAE were Saddam Hussein’s widow and daughters live?

I know it’s the home of Mohammed Saeed “Baghdad Bob” al-Sahhaf, so if Don were to need a press spokesman… (yo, but just be sure to collect your fee in advance, in cash, Mohammed)

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-might-trump-go/930300/80 "2021-01-15T19:28:23Z")

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Saw a bumpersticker the other day, “Hi, I’m back. Hell didn’t want me.”

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