# Where one acquires murder weapons

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [September 8, 2015, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317 "2015-09-08T01:25:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 8\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/61 "2015-09-08T21:04:00Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Was his fence as decorative as the one around [this garden](http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/step-inside-worlds-most-dangerous-garden-if-you-dare-180952635/?no-ist)?
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> Regarding the linked story: it sounds ridiculous to me that visitors to this garden are prohibited from touching or even sniffing the plants (if you’re _that_ sensitive, you probably should never go outside). And the woman quoted as saying that Brugmansia poisoning is painless is, by general accounts, [dead wrong](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brugmansia).
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> \*Brugmansias are beautiful ornamentals, including the one I have that is currently loaded with enormous drooping pink trumpets. I inhale the fragrance (powerful at night) and have never had any probl

What kind of OCD crime scene investigator just HAS to click “Sumit Reply” when he sees a post-in-progress?

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**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/62 "2015-09-08T22:22:48Z")

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I think we’ve had discussions of Silk Road marketplace–a marketplace on Tor which sells all kinds of illegal things:

> **[Silk Road (marketplace)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silk_Road_%28marketplace%29)**
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> Silk Road was an online black market and the first modern darknet market. It was launched in 2011 by its American founder Ross Ulbricht under the pseudonym "Dread Pirate Roberts". He ran the entire marketplace on his personal laptop, which was seized by the FBI October 1, 2013. As part of the dark web, Silk Road operated as a hidden service on the Tor network, allowing users to buy and sell products and services between each other anonymously. All transactions were conducted with bitcoin In Oc...

Since it was shut down there have been several replacements.

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**Author:** ![SpyOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SpyOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpyOne)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/63 "2015-09-09T01:55:38Z")

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> [@Count\_Blucher](#):
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> …I’d rather hand you a pack of TUMS after realizing that you had to read all this.
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> How hard would it be to imagine someone reading this page & saying, “OMFG… what is WRONG with these people!?”

Wait, so there’s something wrong with me if the primary reason I haven’t killed someone isn’t that I can’t figure out how to get an untraceable weapon?  
I think you have that backwards.

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**Author:** ![SpyOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SpyOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpyOne)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/64 "2015-09-09T02:01:12Z")

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> [@Patty\_O\_Furniture](#):
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> Toxic gases can be liberated by combining standard household chemicals. I don’t think it would be hard to get a nitrogen canister, and the USA has more carbon monoxide generators per capita than almost any other country.

On that note: DON’T EVER MIX AMMONIA AND CHLORINE BLEACH.  
I am told a few janitors still die each year because that particular warning isn’t properly disseminated.  
Toxic gas easily produced from stuff nearly everybody already has.  
(And, one supposes, fairly easy to make it look like they got mixed by accident on cleaning day.)

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**Author:** ![SpyOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/82dd89/32.png) [@SpyOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpyOne)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/65 "2015-09-09T02:03:51Z")

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> [@Habeed](#):
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> Sorry, I thought it was a generic term that essentially means any drug that can be dissolved in a drink that will incapacitate (but not usually kill) someone.

Yes, many people use “roofies” when what they mean is a Mickey Finn.

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**Author:** ![Bear\_Nenno](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bear_nenno/32/3358_2.png) [@Bear\_Nenno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bear_Nenno)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/66 "2015-09-09T02:16:48Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> Yes, but even if you were a spree killer, how much better at massacring people would your full auto weapon be? Most likely result is you pull the trigger and in a second or two your magazine is empty and you’ve put a bunch of holes in the ceiling.
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> I’d recommend for your basic spree killer to stick with a basic deer rifle, or whatever rifle they’re most familiar with.

You don’t need a magazine when you attach a belt-fed upper receiver. These upper-receivers are not regulated in anyway. Anyone can purchase them just like buying an X-box. A standard drum for these holds 200 rounds. Or, you can just opt for the 800 round backpack if you fancy a good spree. That’s the equivalent of 27 thirty round magazines without stopping to reload. Spraying bullets nonstop for an entire minute!

[Belt-fed M4/M16 converstion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bIXR-Mngn0). Notice the small, concealable size.

[The backpack.](http://www.military.com/video/guns/machine-guns/backpack-fed-m249-machine-gun/2842246261001/)

And of course, you can do practically the same thing by purchasing an unregulated, no-big-deal, Slide Fire stock and bump-fire your 200-800 rounds![It’s perfectly legal for any AR-15. No ID required.]]([https://youtu.be/Uo4kFzECXGs?t=171](https://youtu.be/Uo4kFzECXGs?t=171))

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/67 "2015-09-09T02:55:56Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> I’m betting Maureen’s daughter has finally worn out **dougie’s** patience.

Not remembering the backstory on this, could you pm me?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [September 9, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-one-acquires-murder-weapons/730317/68 "2015-09-09T03:31:52Z")

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The back story may not matter as much as the situation with Maureen ’ s son Bill; the lawyer I’ve mentioned has warned me not to interfere in the situation lest Bill, who has an unstable personality, come over here (about a mile away) and threaten me or my aged mother. ☹

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