# Where The Hell Did This Piers Morgan Craziness Come From?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 18, 2011, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045 "2011-01-18T03:59:44Z")\
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**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/41 "2011-01-19T14:22:28Z")

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> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> A C-lister that gets bumped to the B because of his accent.

More like because Simon Cowell liked him.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/42 "2011-01-19T16:29:48Z")

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> [@Hippy\_Hollow](#):
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> I am amused that Clarkson tried to twat Morgan. On the Concorde, no less. How annoying do you have to be to out-annoy Clarkson?

And this sentence makes zero sense to me. (I don’t get the referents.)

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**Author:** ![Alka\_Seltzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c89c15/32.png) [@Alka\_Seltzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alka_Seltzer)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/43 "2011-01-19T16:47:37Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> And this sentence makes zero sense to me. (I don’t get the referents.)

Jeremy Clarkson is known for being somewhat arrogant, annoying and opinionated, although unlike Morgan he can also be entertaining. It’s funny that Clarkson, of all people, would get annoyed enough with Morgan to punch him on Concorde. Think prat and pratter.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/44 "2011-01-19T16:54:08Z")

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This is the first time I’ve ever heard of him. In fact, the words “Piers Morgan” did not immediately register as a person’s name when I read the thread. I opened it to see what a Piers Morgan was.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/45 "2011-01-19T18:51:55Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> And this sentence makes zero sense to me. (I don’t get the referents.)

Jeremy Clarkson is the main host (and in its current form, creator) of Top Gear. He’s also a columnist in various rags, and makes documentaries. Clarkson uses the persona of an unfashionable petrol-head right wing reactionary, but it is almost always leavened with wit and self-deprecation. A nod and a wink, if you like.

Piers Moron has no discernable redeeming qualities whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/46 "2011-01-19T19:44:46Z")

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Okay, now to what does “Concorde” refer? I’m assuming we’re not talking about the supersonic jet that went out of business.

(And I don’t know what Room100 is either. Just saying.)

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/47 "2011-01-19T20:22:46Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Okay, now to what does “Concorde” refer? I’m assuming we’re not talking about the supersonic jet that went out of business.
> 
> (And I don’t know what Room100 is either. Just saying.)

Concorde refers to the really fucking obvious meaning - yes, the supersonic jet.

[_Room 101_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Room_101_%28TV_series%29) is a television programme riffing on a concept by _[George Orwell](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Orwell)_ from his novel _[Nineteen Eighty-Four](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four)_. I’ve no idea where you got “Room100” from.

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**Author:** ![Rrose\_Selavy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bcef8e/32.png) [@Rrose\_Selavy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rrose_Selavy)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/48 "2011-01-19T21:08:30Z")

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The only bad thing about Morgan failing miserably in his new job is he’ll probably end up back here in the UK.

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**Post date:** [January 19, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/49 "2011-01-19T21:54:58Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Okay, now to what does “Concorde” refer? I’m assuming we’re not talking about the supersonic jet that went out of business.
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> (And I don’t know what Room100 is either. Just saying.)

It does make sense that Clarkson would be on the penultimate flight of Concorde, since it would fit with Top Gear. Morgan being there is just him once again managing to do cool things despite being as cool as a burnt chilli pepper dipped into a volcano in the centre of the Sun.

Room 101 was explained when it was mentioned (my bolding):

> [@](#):
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> It’s a clip of Ian Hislop on Room 101, **a show where celebrities talk about their pet hates.**

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**Author:** ![si\_blakely](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d9b06d/32.png) [@si\_blakely](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/si_blakely)\
**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/50 "2011-01-20T14:32:28Z")

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> The second-to-last one, I think you mean.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> I’m trying not to make the comment I want to make about what the world would be like had Clarkson and Morgan been on the last Concorde flight, so I’ll just go to my happy place now.

They were on the final commercial BA flight of Concorde on 24 Oct 2003, where Clarkson apparently threw a glass of water over Morgan. This was three years after the 2000 Paris crash, which was not the final flight.

Si

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/51 "2011-01-20T22:42:58Z")

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**Baron Greenback** , I get it from my lousy memory and inability to read back through the thread.

And from the way it was mentioned, I could not figure out the relevance of the airplane, so assumed it was another British pop culture reference. I am vaguely aware of hearing of something called “Flight of the Concordes”, which I gather is some sort of media programme (tv show?), so I thought it might be a reference to some TV show I have never seen that I don’t know what it’s about. Like the equivalent of being on David Letterman’s show and getting annoyed with one of the other guests, or something.

I’m also not sure what it means to “try to twat” someone. I gather it is using a vulgarity for the female anatomy to describe some form of behavior, but am not atuned enough to British slang to parse it.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/52 "2011-01-20T23:00:42Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> And from the way it was mentioned, I could not figure out the relevance of the airplane, so assumed it was another British pop culture reference. I am vaguely aware of hearing of something called “Flight of the Concordes”, which I gather is some sort of media programme (tv show?)…

[Flight of the Conchords.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_of_the_Conchords) (but, yes, pronounced the same as the jet).  
To quote wiki: “a New Zealand-based comedy duo composed of Bret McKenzie and Jemaine Clement. The duo’s comedy and music became the basis of a BBC radio series and then an American television series, which premiered in 2007 on HBO, also called Flight of the Conchords.”

ETA: “twat” in this form means to hit / strike / slap / fight with, etc.

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**Post date:** [January 20, 2011, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/53 "2011-01-20T23:34:35Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> **Baron Greenback** , I get it from my lousy memory and inability to read back through the thread.
> 
> And from the way it was mentioned, I could not figure out the relevance of the airplane, so assumed it was another British pop culture reference. I am vaguely aware of hearing of something called “Flight of the Concordes”, which I gather is some sort of media programme (tv show?), so I thought it might be a reference to some TV show I have never seen that I don’t know what it’s about. Like the equivalent of being on David Letterman’s show and getting annoyed with one of the other guests, or something.
> 
> I’m also not sure what it means to “try to twat” someone. I gather it is using a vulgarity for the female anatomy to describe some form of behavior, but am not atuned enough to British slang to parse it.

You’ve been on this board for 11 years. [www.google.com](http://www.google.com)

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 10:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/54 "2011-01-21T10:45:10Z")

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> [@si\_blakely](#):
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> They were on the final commercial BA flight of Concorde on 24 Oct 2003, where Clarkson apparently threw a glass of water over Morgan. This was three years after the 2000 Paris crash, which was not the final flight.

Shush, you. Don’t bother me with facts. I’m in my happy place.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/55 "2011-01-21T13:28:39Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> I’m also not sure what it means to “try to twat” someone. I gather it is using a vulgarity for the female anatomy to describe some form of behavior, but am not atuned enough to British slang to parse it.

Twatting = hitting in this context. If I were to twat you, I would be punching you.

> [@](#):
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> Okay, now to what does “Concorde” refer? I’m assuming we’re not talking about the supersonic jet that went out of business.

Yes, the supersonic jet that went out of business.

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**Post date:** [January 21, 2011, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/56 "2011-01-21T21:04:12Z")

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Thanks.

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/57 "2011-01-23T21:47:43Z")

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> [@Manduck](#):
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> The second-to-last one, I think you mean.

Good heavens! How many Jeremy Clarkson’s were there?  
hh

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**Post date:** [January 23, 2011, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/58 "2011-01-23T22:26:31Z")

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> [@handsomeharry](#):
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> Good heavens! How many Jeremy Clarkson’s were there?  
> hh

One too many already.

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**Post date:** [December 20, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-the-hell-did-this-piers-morgan-craziness-come-from/568045/59 "2012-12-20T04:15:18Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> I didn’t want to shit on the other thread.
> 
> Seriously, until a month ago the name “Piers Morgan” meant nothing to me. Now he’s the goddamned Second Coming. I can’t look right or left without seeing some urgent report on what Piers Morgan’s doing. Holy mother of shit, he’s got a show! Jesus I. Christ, he’s interviewing Oprah! Oh my sweet ballsack, Piers Morgan put his left shoe on first this morning!
> 
> Why the sudden Piers Morgan mediaboner?

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Replying to the above post:

Seriously, Ricklay, I am in full agreement with your feelings about Morgan but do you have to use such vulgarity to express your opinion? Here are some quotes that I hope will give you pause.

Colossians 3:8 ESV  
But now you must put them all away: anger, wrath, malice, slander, and obscene talk from your mouth.

Ephesians 4:29 ESV  
Let no corrupting talk come out of your mouths, but only such as is good for building up, as fits the occasion, that it may give grace to those who hear.

Matthew 15:10-11 ESV  
And he called the people to him and said to them, “Hear and understand: it is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”

James 3:10 ESV  
From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so.

Ephesians 5:4 ESV  
Let there be no filthiness nor foolish talk nor crude joking, which are out of place, but instead let there be thanksgiving.

Matthew 12:36-37 ESV  
I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.”

James 3:6-8 ESV /  
And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell. For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.

2 Timothy 2:16 ESV  
But avoid irreverent babble, for it will lead people into more and more ungodliness,

Proverbs 21:23 ESV  
Whoever keeps his mouth and his tongue keeps himself out of trouble.

Matthew 5:37 ESV  
Let what you say be simply ‘Yes’ or ‘No’; anything more than this comes from evil.

James 3:11-13 ESV  
Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water. Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom.

Psalm 19:14 ESV  
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my rock and my redeemer.

Romans 12:2 ESV  
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

Luke 6:45 ESV  
The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.

1 Corinthians 10:13 ESV  
No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.

Colossians 4:6 ESV  
Let your speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you ought to answer each person.

1 Timothy 4:12 ESV  
Let no one despise you for your youth, but set the believers an example in speech, in conduct, in love, in faith, in purity.

Romans 12:21 ESV  
Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

Proverbs 4:24 ESV  
Put away from you crooked speech, and put devious talk far from you.

James 1:26 ESV  
If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person’s religion is worthless.

Proverbs 6:12 ESV  
A worthless person, a wicked man, goes about with crooked speech,  
Proverbs 10:31-32 ESV  
The mouth of the righteous brings forth wisdom, but the perverse tongue will be cut off. The lips of the righteous know what is acceptable, but the mouth of the wicked, what is perverse.

Psalm 141:3 ESV  
Set a guard, O Lord, over my mouth; keep watch over the door of my lips!

James 4:7 ESV  
Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

Psalm 34:13-14 ESV  
Keep your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceit. Turn away from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.

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Lighten up, Frances.

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