# Where to Donate to  Fight Nazis?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 2, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351 "2017-12-02T16:55:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![puddleglum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puddleglum/32/137_2.png) [@puddleglum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puddleglum)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/21 "2017-12-04T18:38:38Z")

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I am sure they appreciate it, they only have 320 million in assets including 69 million in overseas tax havens.

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/22 "2017-12-04T18:47:57Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I keep a baseball bat in the trunk of my car.

Keep a ball and glove in there too. Your lawyer will thank you.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/23 "2017-12-04T18:53:32Z")

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By all means, donate to the SPLC. Morris Dees needs a new swimming pool and another yacht.

Seriously, the Nazis are about as big a threat to the modern US as the Apaches or the Comanche.

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/24 "2017-12-04T19:37:55Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> As much as I admire the ACLU, they are not a 501(c) (3) public charity, and they do not appear to be on the side of the angels on this issue, favoring free speech even when said speech advocates political policy that led to [the killing of 65+ million people](http://necrometrics.com/ww2stats.htm#ww2chart).

To be fair the Nazis were only responsible for half of the 65 million deaths on that list, the rest were because of Imperial Japan and saying Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany were equally wrong even in these parts will get you some very angry responses.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/25 "2017-12-04T20:37:40Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> Seriously, the Nazis are about as big a threat to the modern US as the Apaches or the Comanche.

Remind us all which group organizes unite the alt-right marches and shouts anti-semitic slogans.

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [December 4, 2017, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/26 "2017-12-04T20:55:59Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Remind us all which group organizes unite the alt-right marches and shouts anti-semitic slogans.

How many millions of Nazis were at Charlottesville?

I mean, how many thousands?

Er, hundreds?

I mean, this rally was a BIG deal to the alt-right. The turnout was ergo ENORMOUS.

Right?

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**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/27 "2017-12-05T00:10:31Z")

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> [@puddleglum](#):
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> I am sure they appreciate it, they only have 320 million in assets including 69 million in overseas tax havens.

Let’s be precise. At the end of fiscal year 2015 the Southern Poverty Law Center had net assets of $328,395,092 according to their [IRS Form 990](https://www.splcenter.org/sites/default/files/990_103116.pdf) filing. This is not some kindof big secret or conspiracy; this is what is known as an _endowment_, money that is used as investment capital and to sustain it through downturns in charitable donation (due to changes in tax law, such as those the GOP is currently attempting to ramrod through Congress) and in times when increased spending is required. The SPLC has maintained a sizeable endowment since 1974, and while their officers are all paid six figure salaries, they are hardly out of line with what other 503(c) organizations of comparable size pay C-level officers. [Charity Navigator gives them high ratings in accountability & transparency, although less in fiscal responsibility.](https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4482). The only place I can find allegations of the supposed $69M in offshore tax havens is a story repeated across alt-right blogs and newsgroups.

> [@astorian](#):
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> Seriously, the Nazis are about as big a threat to the modern US as the Apaches or the Comanche.

That echos the sentiments of the average German citizen circa 1930. Unfortunately, Nazis did not remain powerless and initiated a global war which devastated not only Germany but all of Europe, plunged Eastern Europe into a four and a half decade long subservience to the Soviet Union, and was generally a bad time had by all involved, not to mention the approximately 20 million people who died in World War II. The hate-rousing neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white nationalists who demonstrated in Charlottesville and elsewhere have gained attention far out or proportion with their numbers and act to inspire others to hatred and fear, while the president that they have endorsed continues to gainsay and and undermine fundamental institutions of democracy and vital government functions by disputing factual reporting with baseless conspiracy theories, insisting that the election that he won was fraudulent, and appointing cabinet members and heads of agencies with people committed to dismantling those agencies from the inside without legislative consent. The violently cartoonish assrabbits screaming in hate and anger may not be the ultimate problem, but given free reign and tacit approval by the highest authority in the nation inspires others toward hatred and disregard for the rights of others, and that may be the greatest threat; it is certainly more than that posed by fundamentalist Islamic terror or undocumented immigrants.

Stranger

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**Author:** ![dolphinboy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dolphinboy/32/330_2.png) [@dolphinboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dolphinboy)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/28 "2017-12-05T01:50:39Z")

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You could donate to the USC Shoah Foundation. They help remind us that the Holocaust was real and that people forgetting that it happened is a real and present danger. I showed the Spielberg’s film “Schindler’s List” at a recent film festival I put on and all of the proceeds from that showing were donated to the Shoah Foundation. They do amazing work every day and need all the financial support they can get.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/29 "2017-12-05T01:56:27Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> Thanks everyone. I did check out the Charity Navigator links, and threw some money at the Southern Poverty Law Center after all. …

This is a song Steve Earle wrote to help fundraise for the SPLC. “Mississippi It’s Time” urges the state to remove the confederate flag from its state flag.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Dt_mzTGUomg/maxresdefault.jpg "Steve Earle -- "Mississippi, It's Time"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt_mzTGUomg)

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/30 "2017-12-05T02:59:16Z")

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> [@Stranger On A Train;20643507](#):
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> The only place I can find allegations of the supposed $69M in offshore tax havens is a story repeated across alt-right blogs and newsgroups.

Disclosure of the SPLC’s unspecified holdings in Bermuda and the Caymans is readily traceable to a Daily Kos [diarist](https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2012/8/27/1124823/-SPLC-238M-assets-Bermuda-acct-co-owns-foreign-firms) who posted relevant pages of the organization’s tax returns in 2012, as he was attacking from the left.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/31 "2017-12-05T04:05:37Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> I understand your personal reasons but consider Trump is on the side of Nazis and others so inclined.

Really? Please show us some undoctored photos of him wearing a swastika, please.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/32 "2017-12-05T04:11:44Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Really? Please show us some undoctored photos of him wearing a swastika, please.

He said there were good people on the Nazis’/white supremacists’ side. By definition, Nazis and white supremacists are not good people.

I’m pretty sure I never mentioned he wore a swastika. Words speak just as loudly.  
Pretty amusing, _you_ demanding photographic proof.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/33 "2017-12-05T04:52:24Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> By all means, donate to the SPLC. Morris Dees needs a new swimming pool and another yacht.
> 
> Seriously, the Nazis are about as big a threat to the modern US as the Apaches or the Comanche.

Near as I can tell, the last persons killed by Apaches died 131 years ago (1886).

The last person killed by Nazis died less than four months ago.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/34 "2017-12-05T04:58:07Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> Really? Please show us some undoctored photos of him wearing a swastika, please.

Are you saying that the only evidence that someone is a Nazi is whether or not they wear a swastika?

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**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/35 "2017-12-05T04:59:50Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> How many millions of Nazis were at Charlottesville?
> 
> I mean, how many thousands?
> 
> Er, hundreds?
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> I mean, this rally was a BIG deal to the alt-right. The turnout was ergo ENORMOUS.
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> Right?

More than one.

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**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/36 "2017-12-05T06:02:50Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> Are you saying that the only evidence that someone is a Nazi is whether or not they wear a swastika?

To be completely honest, he’s really saying that even if there was a photo he’d claim it was doctored.

OP, there’s always the [Holocaust Memorial Museum in DC](https://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=4619).

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**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/37 "2017-12-05T06:30:47Z")

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> [@Sailboat](#):
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> Near as I can tell, the last persons killed by Apaches died 131 years ago (1886).
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> The last person killed by Nazis died less than four months ago.

I mean, if we’re going by that definition that last person killed by Apaches died last month in a murder-robbery.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/38 "2017-12-05T06:43:16Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> By all means, donate to the SPLC. Morris Dees needs a new swimming pool and another yacht.
> 
> Seriously, the Nazis are about as big a threat to the modern US as the Apaches or the Comanche.

This. A million times.

> [@Toastmaker](#):
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> You could donate weapons, ammo or money to the French Resistance but I don’t think they’re still in operation. I could be wrong.

Since the French resistance was really bad a fighting Nazis, I’d keep my money (if they were still alive).  
Most of their help after D-Day, but the ides of the Resisntance being a great deal against the Nazis is exagerated.  
They were also, many of them, vile communists ready to shoot anyone they deemed a collaborator.

> [@jtur88](#):
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> Support Communism. They hated Nazism more than America did, because at least, Naziism was of a capitalist economic ideology.

They also killed three times as many people and enslaved more nations for more time.

> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#):
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> (snipped)
> 
> That echos the sentiments of the average German citizen circa 1930. Unfortunately, Nazis did not remain powerless and initiated a global war which devastated not only Germany but all of Europe, plunged Eastern Europe into a four and a half decade long subservience to the Soviet Union, and was generally a bad time had by all involved, not to mention the approximately 20 million people who died in World War II. The hate-rousing neo-Nazis, Klansmen, and white nationalists who demonstrated in Charlottesville and elsewhere have gained attention far out or proportion with their numbers and act to inspire others to hatred and fear, while the president that they have endorsed continues to gainsay and and undermine fundamental institutions of democracy and vital government functions by disputing factual reporting with baseless conspiracy theories, insisting that the election that he won was fraudulent, and appointing cabinet members and heads of agencies with people committed to dismantling those agencies from the inside without legislative consent. The violently cartoonish assrabbits screaming in hate and anger may not be the ultimate problem, but given free reign and tacit approval by the highest authority in the nation inspires others toward hatred and disregard for the rights of others, and that may be the greatest threat; it is certainly more than that posed by fundamentalist Islamic terror or undocumented immigrants.
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> Stranger

Is the US in 2017 even remotely compared to 1930 Germany? Is the US coming out of a terrible defeat á la WWI and the Hyperinflation? Is there a real threat of a communist takeover of the government such that make fascism a less unpalatable option?  
Also, poor Soviets, they were forced to oppress Eastern Europe because of Hitler. What a joke.

> [@running\_coach](#):
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> He said there were good people on the Nazis’/white supremacists’ side. By definition, Nazis and white supremacists are not good people.
> 
> I’m pretty sure I never mentioned he wore a swastika. Words speak just as loudly.  
> Pretty amusing, _you_ demanding photographic proof.

He didn’t say that. He said good people were marching, they were the majority.  
The tiki-torch loser-gang is a minority.  
Unless, in a goose-gander thingy, whenever the left/Occupy/BLM marches and the Hammer-and-sickle guys come and the Che Guevara t-shirts appear you accept that they are communists and should take the blame for Stalin, Mao, Castro, and Pol Pot.

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Really, this whole “Trump’s a Nazi” beggars belief and can only come from deep ignorance of what Nazi/Fascist means and also a clear softer spot for communism.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/39 "2017-12-05T08:06:51Z")

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Somewhat facetious, but:

I like “donating” to my local gun store.

Baseball bats are all fine and well, but you have to bring a personal level of hatred to the game to choose that as your Weapon of Choice. Not to mention a certain level of physical development/capability, and I’m hardly “The Bear Jew.” Or even Jewish! :rolleyes:

[I like this; for killin’ Nazi’s, it gets a the job done right. I reckon if it was good enough for The Greatest Generation, then it’s good enough for me.](http://image.sportsmansguide.com/adimgs/l/6/641202_ts.jpg)

On a more local level, [various organizations can help](http://www.pinkpistols.org/), keeping its members informed of local Nazi doings.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [December 5, 2017, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-to-donate-to-fight-nazis/803351/40 "2017-12-05T12:36:03Z")

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> [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](#):
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> **He didn’t say that. He said good people were marching, they were the majority.**  
> The tiki-torch loser-gang is a minority.  
> Really, this whole “Trump’s a Nazi” beggars belief and can only come from deep ignorance of what Nazi/Fascist means and also a clear softer spot for communism.

Bull. Fucking. Shit.  
He said there were good people on both sides. One of those sides were the Nazis/white supremacists.  
Fine I’ll call him a commie. I’ll call him anything that makes it clears he lines up on the side with and walks the same path as other dictatorial, authoritarian thugs.

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