# Where Troy Once Stood **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 26, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437 "2011-12-26T17:35:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Zyanthia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Zyanthia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyanthia)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/1 "2011-12-26T17:35:01Z")
So I’m reading the Cliver Cussler book, _Trojan Odyssey_, and he mentions that the real site of the Trojan War was not in Turkey, but rather was in England. I found this a fanciful tail, but knowing that a lot of authors spend time in research before including topics in their work, I decide to do a quick Google search. Sure enough, [this site](http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/) makes the claim. There is even a book written on the subject by Iman Jacob Wilkens. I was just curious if any of you had heard this story and if the book is worth tracking down to read, or is it just a fount of misinformation? ---
**Author:** ![pancakes3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@pancakes3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pancakes3)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/2 "2011-12-26T17:54:26Z")
HAH. sorry, but this does not look legitimate at all. ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/3 "2011-12-26T18:06:10Z")
Heh, I think it looks like a crock but [here’s a section of the book](http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/trojan-war/trojan-war-0.htm) for you to make your own judgment. I note, with absolutely no judgment whatsoever, that his very first piece of evidence that the Trojan War did not occur in Turkey is that Homer describes the see as being wine-dark rather than blue. ---
**Author:** ![Pantani](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/87869e/32.png) [@Pantani](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantani)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/4 "2011-12-26T21:07:38Z")
There’s a way out theory, with book, that the Odyessy and the Iliad fit Baltic geography better that Mediteranian geography and hence are Baltic myths transported to Greece (along with a whole lot of other random “facts”). This kind of overlooks that Homer (whoever he/she/them was) probally had a pretty vague idea of the geography of the Med anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2011, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/5 "2011-12-26T23:20:21Z")
I’ve read it; it’s an interesting theory but I didn’t think it held up to scrutiny. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/6 "2011-12-27T00:25:05Z")
Bear in mind those weren’t the only feet in ancient times some think trod on England’s Mountains Green. ---
**Author:** ![Kizarvexius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/da6949/32.png) [@Kizarvexius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kizarvexius)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-troy-once-stood/607437/7 "2011-12-27T23:03:12Z")
> [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > Heh, I think it looks like a crock but [here’s a section of the book](http://www.troy-in-england.co.uk/trojan-war/trojan-war-0.htm) for you to make your own judgment. I note, with absolutely no judgment whatsoever, that his very first piece of evidence that the Trojan War did not occur in Turkey is that Homer describes the see as being wine-dark rather than blue. I sailed from Bari to Patras many and many a year ago, which was an all-night cruise. When I stepped out onto the deck in the morning light I was stunned by the color of the water, which looked bluish purple to my eyes. I thought that “the wine dark sea” was a perfect description.