# Where was Barack Obama, to stand for Democracy? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 12, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597 "2015-01-12T03:49:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/261 "2015-01-13T17:36:05Z")
> [@adaher](#): > > My view of the Presidency is informed by reading more books on the subject than you’ve probably read on any subject. What books? You’re wrong so damn often, maybe you ought to change the books that you’re reading. And your view of the Presidency is “informed” as much by your admitted personal negative feelings for Obama as it is by anything else. Probably more so, considering how often you’re just incredibly wrong (remember falling for birther crap?). ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/262 "2015-01-13T17:37:55Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > Your lips must be very tired. > [@Czarcasm](#): > > I can’t imagine how many boxes of crayons **adaher’s** gone through. Not getting the joke. Can someone explain? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/263 "2015-01-13T17:38:00Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > I, for one, am against misdeeds, no matter who does them. I link arms with **Lobohan** in condemning misdeeds by all parties, particularly the ones where there’s nothing in it for me. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/264 "2015-01-13T17:47:15Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Not getting the joke. Can someone explain? coloring books. ---
**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/265 "2015-01-13T17:53:31Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > What books? All of them, any of them that have been in front of him over all these years. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/266 "2015-01-13T17:58:57Z")
> [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > coloring books. Yeah, but I don’t get how that ties in with **Colbiri’s** post. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/267 "2015-01-13T18:06:33Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Not getting the joke. Can someone explain? > [@Buck\_Godot](#): > > coloring books. Also, sounding out words as he reads. ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/268 "2015-01-13T18:07:25Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yeah, but I don’t get how that ties in with **Colbiri’s** post. It only ties in categorically, **John**. Both put-downs involve disparagement of the subject’s literary perspicacity. ---
**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/269 "2015-01-13T18:07:31Z")
Really? It’s considered a sign of being more than a little dim, if you move your lips while you read. Like first graders do when they are just learning. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/270 "2015-01-13T18:16:48Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Really? > > It’s considered a sign of being more than a little dim, if you move your lips while you read. Like first graders do when they are just learning. That was the joke I intended. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/271 "2015-01-13T18:17:21Z")
> [@elbows](#): > > Really? > > It’s considered a sign of being more than a little dim, if you move your lips while you read. Like first graders do when they are just learning. > [@Colibri](#): > > That was the joke I intended. I resemble that joke! ---
**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/272 "2015-01-13T18:24:25Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I resemble that joke! \ I’ll confess that I “speak” a paragraph internally when I have trouble understanding what’s being said. I usually imagine a voice for the writer as well. **adaher** usually sounds like Paul Ryan. (Or Paul Reubens, depends on the day and/or subject.) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/273 "2015-01-13T18:27:13Z")
> [@xenophon41](#): > > \ > > I’ll confess that I “speak” a paragraph internally when I have trouble understanding what’s being said. I usually imagine a voice for the writer as well. Usually, I don’t literally move my lips, but I’m one of those guys who tends to pronounce each work in my head as I’m reading. And yeah, different voices for different writers. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/274 "2015-01-13T18:29:01Z")
Excuse me. You guys are getting in the way of Important Commentary on why Obama doesn’t give enough fucks about Democracy. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/275 "2015-01-13T19:03:59Z")
Isn’t there some new outrage to concern ourselves with today? That whole France thing is so… yesterday. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/276 "2015-01-13T19:21:20Z")
How did this hit 6 pages and the national news? Hey guys, help me out here - is this the pettiest shit that republicans on this board have banded together to bitch about, or am I missing something else? This is so phenomenally dumb that it hurts. Obama did quite a few things, including sending Holder to deal with counterterrorism business, visiting the embassy, and phoning the president of France. Hollande made it clear that he wasn’t bothered, and that Obama’s response was good. What, we’re supposed to just take your word for it that that was nothing more than political posturing, and that he’s really quite upset about it? Never mind that people in Europe _like_ Obama. He’s not some bumbling ranchhand with a penchant for directly and intentionally pissing off the entire continent. Everything about this is just so fucking stupid. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/277 "2015-01-13T19:26:59Z")
Still waiting for the French outrage to simmer down a bit. Luckily, the traditional French reticence and reluctance to display unseemly emotion is tamping down the fury, but they are boiling just below the surface. Hard to tell, with people so stoical and reserved. And tone deaf? What about Netanyahu, who more or less thrust himself into the situation? But just imagine, if you can, how many _jihadists_ would throw their lives away for the merest chance to take out Obama and Netanyahu at the same time? Offering Allah an excellent opportunity to express His loyalties… ---
**Author:** ![Asympotically\_fat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e47c2d/32.png) [@Asympotically\_fat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asympotically_fat)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/278 "2015-01-13T19:37:40Z")
benghazi ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/279 "2015-01-13T19:38:26Z")
The Dutch newspapers did not mention Obama in any way, but they did bitch about presidents of countries like Turkey coming in. “Why is our Dutch prez rubbing shoulders with a tyrant who silences protests in his own country” ?? ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/280 "2015-01-13T19:41:38Z")
Best joke I’ve heard all day. And it was during the WH Daily Briefing. (paraphrasing) even Hitler thought it was important to get to Paris. 😃 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597.md?page=15)