# Where was Barack Obama, to stand for Democracy?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 12, 2015, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597 "2015-01-12T03:49:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/661 "2015-01-24T19:22:16Z")

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> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#):
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> Can’t wait for the OP and the usual suspects to tell us how horrible it is that Obama is heading to Saudi Arabia for King Abdullah’s funeral.

I support the President’s decision to attend King Abdullah’s funeral. Saudi Arabia is an important ally, although their civil rights abuses are concerning.

I do not support the President’s decision to snub France, a much more critical, democratic ally.

Yay for you being wrong. I am reasonable and substantive in my criticism. Now go to hell, you sanctimonious cacophony of nescience.

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**Author:** ![Randolph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Randolph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Randolph)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/662 "2015-01-24T19:34:11Z")

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Why are you still here? I thought you won and retired.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/663 "2015-01-24T19:40:32Z")

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> [@Randolph](#):
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> Why are you still here? I thought you won and retired.

I thought about creating a humorous parody thread wherein I applaud Obama for standing up for barbaric Islamic theocracies.

But as it seems to be transitioning to a new but relevant topic, this thread will do, pig. This thread will do.

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**Author:** ![TonySinclair](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/49beb7/32.png) [@TonySinclair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonySinclair)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/664 "2015-01-24T20:27:21Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> A) “How dare he cut short his trip to India? Why does he have no respect for the world’s largest democracy!”

Wait, he went to India again? Did he take three aircraft carriers with him again? Did he stay in the Taj Mahal again? Did he cost the taxpayers a billion dollars a day again?

Wow, I hadn’t heard any of that this time around. Fox News is really lying down on the job.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/665 "2015-01-24T20:51:47Z")

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[Snotty pedantry] “_Laying_ down on the job”, as in performing less than is usual. “Lying” is pretty much SOP. [/SP]

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/666 "2015-01-24T20:53:35Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> I thought about creating a humorous parody thread wherein I applaud Obama for standing up for barbaric Islamic theocracies.
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> But as it seems to be transitioning to a new but relevant topic, this thread will do, pig. This thread will do.

There is little sadder than declaring victory when utterly wrong.

But whatever gets you through the day. \<3

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**Author:** ![eulalia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eulalia/32/457_2.png) [@eulalia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eulalia)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/667 "2015-01-25T10:04:01Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> [Snotty pedantry] “_Laying_ down on the job”, as in performing less than is usual. “Lying” is pretty much SOP. [/SP]

[SP]Who’s down, and why is the name not capitalized?

(Lay Is transitive)[/SP]

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**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/668 "2015-01-25T16:03:33Z")

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> [@TonySinclair](#):
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> If I’m not mistaken, the five largest democracies in the world are India, the US, Indonesia, Brazil, and Pakistan. And if I’m not further mistaken, none of them sent their heads of state, or indeed, anyone else who didn’t already happen to be in France.

He meant white people democracies, you silly person!

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/669 "2015-01-25T17:49:42Z")

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I am also deeply ashamed of this President who deserted the Christian world in its time of trouble, and stood squarely with the Islamic murderers. Think what message this sends to our friends. I’m sure it warms the hearts of our enemies to know Hussein Obama supports their evil. Shame!

The only thing he could have done that would have been even despicable is if he’d flown off to Paris for a photo and teleprompter op, abandoning his duties in Washington, putting Secret Service officers in danger of their lives, and running up a huge tab for the taxpayers for his entourage. I hope that the next time he goes on such a boondoggle, the Congress makes him pay all the expenses.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/670 "2015-01-25T17:55:06Z")

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You managed to work in “teleprompter”. Nice touch!

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/671 "2015-01-25T17:55:18Z")

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All the people getting outraged about this are nutters. Certifiable. Cuckoo eggs, bound for the nest. Idiots…

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/672 "2015-01-25T18:02:27Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> All the people getting outraged about this are nutters. Certifiable. Cuckoo eggs, bound for the nest. Idiots…

QFT.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/673 "2015-01-25T18:07:38Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> All the people getting outraged about this are nutters. Certifiable. Cuckoo eggs, bound for the nest. Idiots…

> [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](#):
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> QFT.

Wait, you’re saying **adaher** is nuts?!  
_Get the fuck outta here!_

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/674 "2015-01-25T18:11:54Z")

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Well, maybe, but the more important question is whether his balls are correctly inflated. It would be helpful if he could provide some evidence, preferably pics.

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/675 "2015-01-25T18:19:42Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Well, maybe, but the more important question is whether his balls are correctly inflated. It would be helpful if he could provide some evidence, preferably pics.

Or he could model the latest fashions.

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**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/676 "2015-01-25T18:39:52Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> I support the President’s decision to attend King Abdullah’s funeral. Saudi Arabia is an important ally, although their civil rights abuses are concerning.
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> I do not support the President’s decision to snub France, a much more critical, democratic ally.
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> Yay for you being wrong. I am reasonable and substantive in my criticism. Now go to hell, you sanctimonious cacophony of nescience.

And yet, somehow, you don’t see the utility of diplomatic dishonesty when it comes to islamic terrorism.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/677 "2015-01-25T22:30:14Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> And yet, somehow, you don’t see the utility of diplomatic dishonesty when it comes to islamic terrorism.

Going to Saudi Arabia isn’t dishonest. It quite plainly shows we have our lips on their oil-laden assholes.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/678 "2015-01-26T03:13:29Z")

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There are trolls who will take any and every opportunity to dis Obama no matter what he does. Why feed them?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/679 "2015-01-26T03:30:17Z")

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Then there are the people who believe Obama can be right both by NOT sending someone of high rank to Paris and by then saying he should have.

If that doesn’t make the space time continuum eat itself, at the very least it should make some of Obama’s sycophants have anyeurisms trying to make that sound consistent.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/where-was-barack-obama-to-stand-for-democracy/709597/680 "2015-01-26T05:02:28Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> I do not support the President’s decision to snub France, a much more critical, democratic ally.

How was it a snub? They French aren’t shy about criticizing America. If they felt snubbed they’d let us know. So far they’ve said nothing about being snubbed.

Quite trying to make this something it wasn’t.

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