# Where's davidm? In the hospital recovering from a medical screwup.

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [November 29, 2017, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049 "2017-11-29T12:24:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/261 "2018-01-07T08:51:29Z")

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Googling shows that Meripenem can cause seizures. Bingo!

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/262 "2018-01-07T09:55:51Z")

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I think the second one was Augmentin, which can have seizures as a rare side effect.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/263 "2018-01-07T19:46:23Z")

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Some of those drugs are on restricted-use protocols for a reason, but if you need them, you NEEEEEEEEED them.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2018, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/264 "2018-01-07T20:47:13Z")

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> [@nearwildheaven](#):
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> Some of those drugs are on restricted-use protocols for a reason, but if you need them, you NEEEEEEEEED them.

They stopped the antibiotics yesterday. Today in PT I stood up and walked (with a walker) with little difficulty. Previously it was a struggle. All I can figure is that the powerful antibiotics were weakening me.

So maybe I’ll be back on my feet sooner than I thought.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/265 "2018-01-08T18:47:46Z")

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I just spoke with a GI doc who looked at my surgical report. My symptoms may be explainable by the large amount of bowel they removed.

They may have to put in a PIC line and feed me via TPN.

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**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/266 "2018-01-08T18:54:39Z")

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Well damn, the hits just keep on coming.

BUT, in spite of everything, it sounds like you are improving and prevailing over your medical situations, which is excellent news.

I continue to pray for your betterment and swift recovery. I’d offer you a hug but with all the tubes and lines and stuff it would probably hurt.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/267 "2018-01-08T19:14:45Z")

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I just hope the TPN feeding isn’t going to be for the rest of my life.

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**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/268 "2018-01-09T06:29:54Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I just hope the TPN feeding isn’t going to be for the rest of my life.

My daughter had a PIC line when she was hospitalized for colitis because her colon was so inflamed that _anything_ passing through it would cause her intense pain (over and above what she was already experiencing). She had to have more than one IV “tree” because of all the stuff they were pumping into her.

Anyway, she had her entire colon removed. The PIC line came out about two weeks after surgery and by the time she was discharged she could handle something resembling a normal diet. Biggest no-nos were highly acidic foods.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/269 "2018-01-09T18:56:00Z")

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I’ve been missing my colon since the 70s. Now I’m also missing the ileum, so I may be on TPN for months, with the goal being my remaining bowel adjusting to a normal diet.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2018, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/270 "2018-01-09T22:20:04Z")

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Here is the link for the thread: [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20714033&posted=1#post20714033](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=20714033&posted=1#post20714033)

I checked with the mods, and went with Cafe Society.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/271 "2018-01-10T13:46:29Z")

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They’re probably putting in the PIC line and starting TPN today.

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/272 "2018-01-10T18:15:43Z")

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I hope it leads to continued improvement, despite the (hopefully) short-term inconvenience.

Does this mean no food at all by oral route, or limited diet?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/273 "2018-01-10T20:57:46Z")

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> [@Sunny\_Daze](#):
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> I hope it leads to continued improvement, despite the (hopefully) short-term inconvenience.
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> Does this mean no food at all by oral route, or limited diet?

Clear liquids.

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**Post date:** [January 10, 2018, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/274 "2018-01-10T21:14:18Z")

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It’s a start. Hopefully the adjustment with go quickly, and the rehab will move more quickly as well, now that they’ve identified the cause of some of the problems.

Have you had a chance to start on Fire and Fury?

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [January 11, 2018, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/275 "2018-01-11T11:58:23Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> Clear liquids.

In your shoes/bed I’d be asking the nurse if vodka counts as a clear liquid.

Does it? Cause it is. 😕

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/276 "2018-01-12T00:50:19Z")

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How was today?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/277 "2018-01-12T18:40:43Z")

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> [@IvoryTowerDenizen](#):
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> How was today?

About the same. Clear liquids and TPN.

We tried to do some PT but didn’t get too far. My blood pressure was way too low and I got dizzy standing up.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/278 "2018-01-12T18:44:38Z")

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They’re talking about moving me to a rehab center.

Anyone in my area have experience with Manorcare Health Services in Montgomeryville PA?

They appear to have the best ratings of the choices I’ve been given.

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**Post date:** [January 12, 2018, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/279 "2018-01-12T20:13:19Z")

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Davidm, you have my sympathy in all this.

In my experience, rehabs in general are not where the “A” team workers (nurses, CNAs, doctors) end up. Service and attention to patient health is not great. My grandmother was in several of them for extended stays, and if it wasn’t for family being in to visit every single day, and keeping an eye on things, I think she might have died.

I honestly believe the single most important criteria when choosing a rehab is proximity to family, so they can stop in frequently. You have a brother helping out, is that right? Pick one as close to him as you can.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [January 19, 2018, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-davidm-in-the-hospital-recovering-from-a-medical-screwup/803049/280 "2018-01-19T14:41:22Z")

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I’m being moved to a rehab today. This is the third rehab. With the first two I ended up back in the hospital. Let’s hope that the third time is the charm!

They took some time looking for a place they were confident could handle my specific issues so hopefully it will work out.

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