# Where's the Dead Like Me threads? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 15, 2004, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516 "2004-09-15T05:03:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/1 "2004-09-15T05:03:05Z")
My weekly routine of heading to the SDMB as soon as I finally get to see an episode and opening the threads has been disturbingly lacking the past few weeks. A few thoughts: General: Reg is really growing on me. I’m not sure why, but she is. Her mom…isn’t. The babysitter she had last week deserves her ass kicked. Daisy and Mas… I think they’re potentially a good couple, if things continue as they look to be. Reaps: Is it me, or are there a growing number of deaths that the Reapers actually CAUSE lately? George is indirectly responsible for the massive shooting at the medical company she took too long to assign a temp to. Daisy’s Priest this week was killed because he was careless because of what Daisy told him earlier. Roxy shot Mas’s reap this week. This is an interesting trend. Roxy deserves a kick in the pants for making Mas’s job harder than it needed to be. Fine, get shirty at Mas, but it’s his reap that’s gonna suffer for it. If she was going to help George get in, she should have helped Mas. Mas’s apologies for this reap were surprising. He’s had reaps that were close calls before, without the grovelling, and this time the problems weren’t all his own fault (Roxy & the guard) - although he could have disengaged from the bunch of goths that dragged him in a little earlier. I’m wondering if the chick who got him in freaking out when it turned out he really WAS a Reaper had anything to do with it. Last week, Mas reaping his hero was…kind of neat. I liked the bit with the needle. Anyone other thoughts? ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/2 "2004-09-15T05:41:40Z")
Sounds like you’re a week behind. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/3 "2004-09-15T08:53:27Z")
I was, but now I’m not. TMN on Demand has finally gotten around to adding the most recent. So…further thoughts: Looks like we’re gonna find out some more about Rube’s history before the season’s over. I still say he was a con-man. The Trip situation was predictable. The ‘Dragon Slayer’ was interesting. I wonder if he’ll be a regular character. Gotta be sucky for a kid to get stuck with the job. Roxy and Mas’s reaps were fairly predictable, too, but there was a lot more amusement waiting for them than waiting for the Trip situation to unfold. (Although I have to admit, that was an amusing death.) I actually LIKED Roxy this time around - I usually don’t so much. No Reaper-inflicted death this episode. ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/4 "2004-09-15T09:26:22Z")
It only started running here (Sweden) last week. Haven’t had a chance yet. Is it worth following, then, and why? ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/5 "2004-09-15T22:31:26Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Looks like we’re gonna find out some more about Rube’s history before the season’s over. I still say he was a con-man. Loony Theory: Rube’s daughter is Joy’s mother. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/6 "2004-09-15T22:37:01Z")
That would be…interesting. I think it would break poor George’s already fragile little mind. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2004, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/7 "2004-09-15T22:56:06Z")
> [@aegypt](#): > > It only started running here (Sweden) last week. Haven’t had a chance yet. Is it worth following, then, and why? Yes, it’s worth following. It’s funny as hell, but I wouldn’t really call it a comedy. It’s often poignant, but I certainly wouldn’t call it a drama. And I most certainly wouldn’t use that horrid word “dramedy” that is sometimes used for stuff that walks the line between humor and pathos. The main character is George, who was the consummate slacker teenager–apathy, isolation, and angst personified. And then she dies and becomes a Grim Reaper. The show is about her going through the who am I/who do I want to be/what am I going to do with my life stuff most people her age have to sort out, except that she’s undead and also has to learn to cope with being a Reaper. It’s also about the Reapers she works with, and how they deal with various unresolved issues from their lives and deaths and afterlives. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/8 "2004-09-16T05:37:03Z")
The Dragon Slayer character appeared last year, so he already is a recurring character. I do like Reggie’s character a lot more this year. She seems a bit more normal. Or maybe a little less weird. ---
**Author:** ![citrus\_x\_paradisi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6f9a4e/32.png) [@citrus\_x\_paradisi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/citrus_x_paradisi)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/9 "2004-09-16T05:43:43Z")
I’m very happy over two plot elements from the most recent episode (9/12, I believe): 1) Dragonslayer kid is back! 2) George has made contact with her grandmother! You may question how valuable this contact was, but I think it’s an important step to George communicating with her family, or making a decision as to whether she should do so. Great episode. I really, really enjoyed it. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/10 "2004-09-16T06:22:10Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > The Trip situation was predictable. What was The Trip situation? I didn’t really get why they were all alone on th plane at the end… ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/11 "2004-09-16T06:30:29Z")
The situation on the plane brings up this question: After a Reaper takes a soul and the person dies, is the Reaper still visible to the living? If not, how is his/her disappearance explained to people who saw them before the person died? Wouldn’t the kids in the school remember Rube? ---
**Author:** ![Lyllyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b2d939/32.png) [@Lyllyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lyllyan)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/12 "2004-09-16T06:43:38Z")
Right after George was reaped, Rube explained to her that he could choose to be interactive with the living. I think that when a soul is reaped and the reaper takes him/her to their reward, they are no longer visable to anyone except other reapers and the deseased. As to the most recent episode, I, too, was glad that George made semi-contact with her grandmother. I don’t think that Rube is related in anyway, that he was looking in the phone books for Rosie or decendants. It seems that the writers are breaking away from some of the rules established in the first season, ie…that the reapers don’t cause accidents or death, that the gravelings do, but we have seen death as a direct cause of interference by Daisy (with the priest), Roxy (the groupie with the gun) and George (the temp placed at Luna-techa). I do dearly love this show. Now, if only Carnivale and Deadwood would start back up, I could become the couch potato I always dreamed of becoming. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/13 "2004-09-16T07:11:37Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > What was The Trip situation? I didn’t really get why they were all alone on th plane at the end… Then this show is obviously far too clever for you. Go watch JAG instead. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/14 "2004-09-16T07:32:03Z")
> [@Lyllyan](#): > > As to the most recent episode, I, too, was glad that George made semi-contact with her grandmother. But she didn’t _try_ to do that. She was calling her own home; her gran just happened to be the one who picked up. > [@](#): > > It seems that the writers are breaking away from some of the rules established in the first season, ie…that the reapers don’t cause accidents or death, that the gravelings do, You’re misremembering. The gravelings cause accidents; they have little or nothing to do with murders and suicides. And when Rube says that Reapers don’t kill people, just remove their souls before death, he’s clearing up a point of confusion that would have turned a lot of people off when George took the little girl’s soul at the end of the ep: the act of reaping is _not_ ending the life, only preparing it for its fated end. > [@](#): > > but we have seen death as a direct cause of interference by Daisy (with the priest), Roxy (the groupie with the gun) and George (the temp placed at Luna-techa). You have a strange definition of “direct” that does not match our Earth definition. George didn’t directly cause the temp’s death by sending him to Luna-tech any more than Joy caused her death by sending her out to work - she didn’t know that doing so would kill him, which makes it an indirect action at worst. Same with Daisy; the priest might not have been at the font without the epiphany she gave him, but she in no wise caused his accident. ---
**Author:** ![aegypt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/76d3ee/32.png) [@aegypt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aegypt)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/15 "2004-09-16T08:54:04Z")
Sounds fun! A bit like “Grim Fandango”, one of my favorite computer games. Though appearantly a bit more down-to-earth. I’ll definitely catch the next episode. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/16 "2004-09-16T09:33:10Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > What was The Trip situation? I didn’t really get why they were all alone on th plane at the end… Wrong trip situation. Trip was the name of the guy George was sort of trying to hook up with when she found out she had to reap his father - but thought she had to reap HIM first, which was very awkward for her, and served to make the already awkward situation of reaping his dad even worse. I saw how that whole bit would unfold - That he’d turn out to be the Reap’s son, that George would think he was the Reap, that George and he would get cozy, making that kinda weird - the moment Trip introduced himself, and I’m sure some people caught it as soon as he spoke up. ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/17 "2004-09-17T00:11:17Z")
> [@Evil Death](#): > > Then this show is obviously far too clever for you. Go watch JAG instead. What the hell!? I obviously just missed something! How about a bone instead of a needless insult! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/18 "2004-09-16T20:22:44Z")
One thing I didn’t get (and I’ve no idea where this episode fits into the series) was George trying to reap some rock star and having to use subterfuge to get into his unplugged concert, the VIP room, etc. That suggests to me that if you’re wealthy enough and can afford bodyguards to keep every unfamiliar person away (or if you’re just a shut-in with no human contact at all), the reapers can’t get you and you’ll never die. ---
**Author:** ![Glory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/7cd45c/32.png) [@Glory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Glory)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/19 "2004-09-16T20:35:10Z")
> [@Bryan Ekers](#): > > One thing I didn’t get (and I’ve no idea where this episode fits into the series) was George trying to reap some rock star and having to use subterfuge to get into his unplugged concert, the VIP room, etc. That suggests to me that if you’re wealthy enough and can afford bodyguards to keep every unfamiliar person away (or if you’re just a shut-in with no human contact at all), the reapers can’t get you and you’ll never die. Oh, you still die - but your soul is trapped in a dead, decaying body, experiencing all the unpleasantness of being undead (autopsy), not able to speak or cry out… Until a reaper frees your soul. The reaper touching a person doesn’t kill them, it releases their soul from their body. Most reapers do it first, so the person doesn’t experience the pain/trauma of physically dying. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecccb3/32.png) [@Evil\_Death](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Death)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516/20 "2004-09-16T23:06:00Z")
> [@pizzabrat](#): > > What the hell!? I obviously just missed something! How about a bone instead of a needless insult! How about you pay some minimal amount of attention to the episodes before you post? The guy introduces himself as Trip, George calls him Trip, and they even have a brief conversation about it. I can’t see how you could watch that ep and miss it. **aegypt** - DLM isn’t really much like Grim Fandango. I also suggest you try getting hold of the pilot; it’s really important for understanding how the show works, and will save you many "Huh?"s and "Why doesn’t…?"s. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-dead-like-me-threads/264516.md?page=2)