# Where's the insult, Aspenglow?

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**Created:** [August 5, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122 "2021-08-05T20:58:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/1 "2021-08-05T20:58:06Z")

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> [@On another topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/948118/1):
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> > So it couldn’t possibly include “I want someone who’ll sit at home with me on the computer 24/7 trolling websites with ridiculous garbage that annoys people while eating Cheetos”? That couldn’t possibly qualify as a partner in crime? I think it could.
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> This is a formal Warning for disregarding earlier moderator instructions to stop gratuitously insulting everyone in this thread who have offered their opinions to you about the meaning of the phrase “Partner in Crime.”

I don’t see an insult to anyone here. (I also don’t see a confession, as some have asserted, that I am confessing to trolling, either.) This was a direct response to someone telling me that all personal ads using the phrase ‘Partner in Crime’ are looking for an active, out-of-the-house, go-getter type character. I merely supplied an example of an archetypal stay-at-home type who would still fulfill that description. How is the above post (quoted in full) an insult? Who am I supposedly insulting? Or this post both a confession of my own trolling AND an accusation that everyone in the thread other than me is trolling? And a dessert topping and a floor wax?

Please show me the insulting part.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/2 "2021-08-05T21:02:37Z")

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BTW, it occurs to me (and I just confirmed it) that people have been taking my posts as trolling attempts quite freely so I thought “Maybe there’s another poster here similarly named to me who maybe got on people’s nerves before or something?” and yup there is a “Roger That” (no underscore) who might have done that before I got here. (Someone wrote something about “I was just waiting for him to start trolling as soon as I saw him posting” which struck me as odd.) Maybe I could change my username if this is the case?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/3 "2021-08-05T21:05:11Z")

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You don’t think it’s insulting to describe someone as

> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> trolling websites with ridiculous garbage that annoys people

?

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/4 "2021-08-05T21:06:33Z")

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I could have picked any number of your responses in that thread that followed @puzzlegal’s moderator warnings, so pick one. As it happened, I simply responded to one that was flagged.

I was not the only moderator watching your thread. It was discussed and agreed you should receive a formal warning for not following @puzzlegal’s earlier instructions.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/5 "2021-08-05T21:07:44Z")

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Of course not. I am describing behavior by a classic troll, not directing it (REMOTELY) to anyone on the board. For evidence if you need it, look at all the folks who somehow decided that I was actually describing MYSELF in a semi-clever semi-confessional mode.

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/6 "2021-08-05T21:13:20Z")

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I had also just written several consecutive posts in that thread where I was quite affable, taking a completely different tack on a different subject, and not engaging with people (not warned) who were calling me things like “creep” and other such. It’s ok to tell me that I’m overthinking but it’s an insult to respond that others are underthinking? I’d like to see what you consider an insult to others after puzzlegal’s rebuke.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/7 "2021-08-05T21:30:15Z")

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You were quite clearly insulting everyone in that thread, your tone in that and other posts was quite clearly not affable, and if you can’t see that, then you need to seriously recalibrate your understanding of interpersonal communications.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/8 "2021-08-05T21:34:34Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> I had also just written several consecutive posts in that thread where I was quite affable,

Cite?

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/9 "2021-08-05T21:47:22Z")

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My last eight posts in that thread. Unless you’re telling me just to shut up, I don’t see where I’ve insulted anyone here, merely disagreed with them (and mostly not even that):

**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

CairoCarol

[6h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/49)

A simile is a type of metaphor.

**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

[6h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/52)

I like jokes when they’re funny.

**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

[6h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/55)

I do say so. A simile is a type of metaphor that uses “like” or “as.”

**[  
Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

[6h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/57)

Czarcasm:

Using the term _incorrectly_ , as you insist on doing, will just confuse people.

It ain’t me who’s using it incorrectly. I don’t use it. I don’t even approve of it. It’s all the people, some of them in this thread, who are defining it willy-nilly and expecting others to understand their clear meaning, which is what I’m trying to point out. Everyone understands what it means? Yeah, sure, if it means nothing.

**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

[6h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/60)

CairoCarol:

all similes are metaphors,

which is precisely what I asserted, and which you denied.

**[velomont](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/velomont)** [Guest](https://boards.straightdope.com/g/Registered)

[6h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/62)

Roger\_That:

Can anyone make this expression make any sense to me?

Well, we’ve tried, and we all seem to agree, and you just keep arguing with us. Why is that?

**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

[5h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/63)

Don’t know. You’re a pretty argumentative bunch. Take [**@CairoCarol**](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cairocarol) --I say “all similes are metaphors” and she comes back with a link that asserts exactly that point, so I say that I agree with her link, and she asks me to “at least click on my links,” and then proceeds to quote the part that supports what I told her in the first place. And I’m argumentative?

**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

chela

[5h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/64)

Pretty good. So this is what my personal ad says as of now:

“Do you want to walk with me down the trail of life, making memories along the way? Can you make me laugh, and are

you sensitive to my needs, as I am sensitive to yours? Do you have an ear to lend, can you keep my secrets close? I love music, some types more than others, of course, and I’m equally comfortable dressing way up or just kicking back in a t-shirt and shorts. Most of all, I want someone who wants love, and who knows what to do with it. Are you my partner in crime?”

Have I said anything? Tell me please, and I’ll edit it right out. This is just [GENERIC CONTENT-FREE PERSONAL AD] with some verbosity tossed in. You know absolutely nothing about the person who wrote it.

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**[Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)**

[4h](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/personal-ads-partner-in-crime/948030/71)

Shoulda worked “Age is just a number” in there, too.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/10 "2021-08-05T21:53:25Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> BTW, it occurs to me (and I just confirmed it) that people have been taking my posts as trolling attempts quite freely so I thought “Maybe there’s another poster here similarly named to me who maybe got on people’s nerves before or something?” and yup there is a “Roger That” (no underscore) who might have done that before I got here. (Someone wrote something about “I was just waiting for him to start trolling as soon as I saw him posting” which struck me as odd.) Maybe I could change my username if this is the case?

[I doubt that would help any.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-newbie-questions-for-what-exit/943164)

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/11 "2021-08-05T21:54:17Z")

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And again does the other “Roger That” have some sort of history of trolling or other nastiness here?

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**Author:** ![Roger\_That](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roger_that/32/8505_2.png) [@Roger\_That](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roger_That)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/12 "2021-08-05T21:56:29Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> and if you can’t see that, then you need to seriously recalibrate your understanding of interpersonal communications

But this, I suppose, is affable? I find it snarky and at the least mildly insulting. At the very least it’s unfriendly and decidedly condescending.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2021, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/13 "2021-08-05T23:01:32Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> And again does the other “Roger That” have some sort of history of trolling or other nastiness here?

You claiming that thread, which resulted in [a warning for insults outside the Pit](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/some-newbie-questions-for-what-exit/943164/3) and closure, was typed by [a one-armed man?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fugitive_(1963_TV_series))

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/14 "2021-08-06T00:02:21Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> And again does the other “Roger That” have some sort of history of trolling or other nastiness here?

There is no **Roger That**. (If there had been, it would have automatically have been converted to **Roger\_That** during our recent software transition, meaning the name wouldn’t have been available for you.) There was a **rogerthat** , but they only ever made one post.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/15 "2021-08-06T00:16:19Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> There was a **rogerthat** , but they only ever made one post.

Oh, but [what a post it was.](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cheerful-sounding-songs-with-surprisingly-dark-lyrics/812217/151) The anger, the vileness, the sheer depravity of that post - we all hated it with the passion of a million suns. Ever since that day, we have vowed as a board to show no mercy to any Rogers, no matter how affable they might be.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/16 "2021-08-06T01:02:57Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> > [@Chronos](#):
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> > and if you can’t see that, then you need to seriously recalibrate your understanding of interpersonal communications
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> But this, I suppose, is affable? I find it snarky and at the least mildly insulting. At the very least it’s unfriendly and decidedly condescending.

He’s a moderator asserting his authority. Unlike you, he was not claiming to be affable.

That said, I would say his post was less insulting than the post that mentions CairoCarol, and wasn’t trying to start a fight over the usage of a word.

The main issue, however, is that you were given moderator instructions to back off, and you didn’t follow those instructions. That is probably the number one reason people get Warnings around here. If a mod tells you you’re starting to come off badly, you should listen, even if you weren’t intending to be insulting.

I know. I’ve had that. I still to this day don’t know what part of my post was interpreted as insulting from the first Mod Note that @What_Exit gave me. I still did my best to follow his instructions, though.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/17 "2021-08-06T02:53:00Z")

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There is nothing in those posts that says “affable.” You’re being just as condescending as you’re accusing others of being.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/18 "2021-08-06T03:03:22Z")

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> [@Roger\_That](#):
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> > [@Chronos](#):
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> > and if you can’t see that, then you need to seriously recalibrate your understanding of interpersonal communications
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> But this, I suppose, is affable? I find it snarky and at the least mildly insulting. At the very least it’s unfriendly and decidedly condescending.

You might want to consider that when several different moderators all agree that some of your posts were insulting, and other posters here concur, that maybe the problem is not with the moderation, but the problem is with you. And quite frankly, it seems deeply ironic that after a track record of insulting other posters, you appear hypersensitive to the slightest criticism directed against yourself, and consider constructive moderator guidance to be “snarky and at least mildly insulting”. **Chronos** is right. I really do think some recalibration is in order.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/19 "2021-08-06T05:22:53Z")

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As someone else who has a “track record of insulting other posters” - and been warned for it on (I think) 3 occasions - I concur.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2021, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-insult-aspenglow/948122/20 "2021-08-06T05:48:54Z")

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> [@wolfpup](#):
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> You might want to consider that when several different moderators all agree that some of your posts were insulting, and other posters here concur, that maybe the problem is not with the moderation, but the problem is with you.

But they are all partners in crime!

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