# Where's the UN??

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [April 4, 2002, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-un/101728 "2002-04-04T05:00:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [April 6, 2002, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wheres-the-un/101728/21 "2002-04-06T03:28:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by capacitor \*  
> \*\*Oh for sure, suicide bombs and such actions are highly counterproductive, much less effective so than civil disobedience to address grievances. \*\*

That’s the problem they aren’t willing to look at nonviolent alternatives. The [PLO charter](http://www.netaxs.com/~iris/plochart.htm) states that “Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. Thus it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase.”

And don’t think that’s just the charter. [It’s the whole culture.](http://www.yashanet.com/news/school.htm) As Freidman pointed out in the Times, have you ever heard any talk about Arafat’s ambitions for education, or infrastructure or economic development?

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