# Whether **URL:** \ **Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\ **Created:** [June 25, 2014, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596 "2014-06-25T08:53:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toefungus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b487fb/32.png) [@toefungus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toefungus)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/1 "2014-06-25T08:53:24Z")
Incorrect: “I will see you on Monday, whether or not it rains” Correct: “I will see you on Monday, irregardless of whether or not it rains” * * * LINK TO COLUMN: [Is “whether or not” good grammar? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1190/is-whether-or-not-good-grammar) ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/2 "2014-06-25T09:16:59Z")
I have warm sock on I think I might take them off Or not, I’m still cold ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/3 "2014-06-25T11:27:55Z")
Welcome to the Straight Dope Message Boards, **toefungus** , we’re glad you found us. For future ref, when starting a thread, it’s helpful to other readers to provide a link to the column in question. Helps keep us all on the same page, and saves searching time. No biggie, you’ll know for next time, and as I say: you’re welcome irregardless of the rainy whether 😉 ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/4 "2014-06-25T12:47:12Z")
> [@toefungus](#): > > Correct: “I will see you on Monday, irregardless of whether or not it rains” I don’t think any sentence with _irregardless_ in it is “correct.” :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/5 "2014-06-25T12:56:46Z")
Okay then, help me correctly word the sentence, “I don’t think any sentence with irregardless in it is ‘correct’.” ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/6 "2014-06-25T13:10:32Z")
It’s like Gaudere’s Law in 3D! ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/7 "2014-06-25T15:42:28Z")
“Ir” is a Spanish verb meaning “to go.” It is pronounced like “ear” in English. Regardless, I’ve got to go. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/8 "2014-06-25T16:16:24Z")
Whether the weather is hot, or whether the weather is cold, we’ll weather the weather whatever the weather, irregardless if you like it or not! Just doesn’t have the same ring to it ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/9 "2014-06-25T16:40:52Z")
> [@toefungus](#): > > Correct: “I will see you on Monday, irregardless of whether or not it rains” I prefer “… irregardless of whether or not it rains or it doesn’t,” but my friend points out that it should be “antidisirregardless”. He may be nonincorrect. ---
**Author:** ![qazwart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/5fc32e/32.png) [@qazwart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/qazwart)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/10 "2014-06-25T17:00:50Z")
> [@toefungus](#): > > Incorrect: “I will see you on Monday, whether or not it rains” > > Correct: “I will see you on Monday, irregardless of whether or not it rains” Correction to the correction: "I will see you on the _exact same_ Monday we originally planned, irregardless of whether or not it rains. We’ll try _and_ have tuna _fish_ for lunch. _Whom_ should we ask to come with us? (Don’t forget that period!) (Don’t over use exclamation points!!!) ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2014, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/11 "2014-06-25T21:54:51Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > I don’t think any sentence with _irregardless_ in it is “correct.” :dubious: [sub]I think you been whooshed, my friend.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/12 "2014-06-26T00:25:12Z")
Well, what do you want? Good grammar or good taste? ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/13 "2014-06-26T10:58:10Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Well, what do you want? Good grammar or good taste? My grammar’s long dead, so’s my gramper. ---
**Author:** ![OneCentStamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/13edae/32.png) [@OneCentStamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OneCentStamp)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/14 "2014-06-26T12:26:37Z")
> [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](#): > > [sub]I think you been whooshed, my friend.[/sub] :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Zeldar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b77776/32.png) [@Zeldar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zeldar)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/15 "2014-06-26T14:01:19Z")
You can always go for the double whammy of sounding both incorrect and arcane by using “sans regardless” or “bar regardless” to spiff up your speech. Eyebrows will raise. Little children will snicker. Pedants will puke. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/16 "2014-06-26T17:13:18Z")
Both modifying clauses are wrong when using the imperative form of the future tense. Correct would be “I would like to see you on Monday, whether or not is rains.” or “I could see you on Monday, whether or not is rains.” Otherwise, “I will see you on Monday.” should be enough, or you’re going to be in big trouble on Monday. ---
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/17 "2014-06-26T17:14:03Z")
How about cum irregard? ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2014, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/18 "2014-06-26T18:09:27Z")
> [@OneCentStamp](#): > > :smack: Ditto with the :smack: Got me too. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [June 27, 2014, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whether/691596/19 "2014-06-27T00:36:06Z")
> [@watchwolf49](#): > > Both modifying clauses are wrong when using the imperative form of the future tense. Correct would be “I would like to see you on Monday, whether or not is rains.” or “I could see you on Monday, whether or not is rains.” > > Otherwise, “I will see you on Monday.” should be enough, or you’re going to be in big trouble on Monday. Whether it rain or not, I will see you Sunday. Whether it be fair weather or foul, I will see you Sunday. If it be not to come it will be now, if it be not now yet it will come. Conditional clauses take the subjunctive form of the verb.