# Whew it's hot out here! Summer Mini-Rants

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 23, 2010, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239 "2010-06-23T14:33:08Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 21, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1221 "2010-09-21T21:42:07Z")

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Doesn’t have to be a _class_–just anything where you’re trying to work with someone else and one channel of communication is failing.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1222 "2010-09-22T00:12:34Z")

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> [@Lionne](#):
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> My contacts keep shifting and it’s driving me crazy. Is Lasik cheap yet?

If there’s one thing you shouldn’t do on the cheap, it’s flashing lasers into your eyes.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1223 "2010-09-22T02:57:32Z")

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I’m thinking about going back to work so I was filling out an online job application. One of the questions was why I left my last job. And my options were

\*Voluntarily quit  
\*Terminated  
\*Laid off

How about “none of the above”? I worked there for twenty-seven years and then I retired. I picked “voluntarily quit” as being the closest.

There was also a question about my age group. The possibilities were

\*Under 16  
\*16-21  
\*21-30  
\*31-39  
\*Other

I’m forty eight so I’m an “other”.

Now I’m not applying for a job delivering pizzas. This is a Borders and I see people working there who are my age and older.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1224 "2010-09-22T04:02:33Z")

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I wonder if “other” includes “Not born yet” and “Risen from grave.”

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1225 "2010-09-22T08:36:53Z")

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I locked myself out of my fucking house. Fuck.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1226 "2010-09-22T15:14:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> There was also a question about my age group.

:dubious: Isn’t that illegal?

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1227 "2010-09-22T16:10:03Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> > There was also a question about my age group.
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> :dubious: Isn’t that illegal?

To the best of my understanding, it’s only illegal if they use it as a reason to not hire you. Your problem is proving that’s the case.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1228 "2010-09-22T16:13:38Z")

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My phone is dying…it randomly freezes, and often will not complete a call. When I do get a call to go through, the connection is very distorted, even when I have a strong signal. :mad: I’ve never had a mobile device wear out this fast – I’ve only had it a few years!

(It’s an HTC running Windows Mobile, if you’re wondering. I don’t plan to purchase either one again.)

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**Author:** ![otternell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecc23a/32.png) [@otternell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/otternell)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1229 "2010-09-22T16:32:46Z")

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Ooh - windows mobile can eat shit and die. I hated the “smart”:rolleyes: phone I had with WM. Constant problems.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1230 "2010-09-22T18:49:14Z")

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> [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> To the best of my understanding, it’s only illegal if they use it as a reason to not hire you. Your problem is proving that’s the case.

Stupid of them to ask, then. If it’s not a hiring criterion, they shouldn’t even give you the opportunity to point to it as a reason you weren’t hired.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1231 "2010-09-22T20:19:58Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> > [@Ferret\_Herder](#):
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> > To the best of my understanding, it’s only illegal if they use it as a reason to not hire you. Your problem is proving that’s the case.
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> Stupid of them to ask, then. If it’s not a hiring criterion, they shouldn’t even give you the opportunity to point to it as a reason you weren’t hired.

They can, IIRC, include a survey questionnaire that is not used in hiring and is not checked by the managers. The questionnaire is used for statistical reports to determine such things as how diverse the employee population is.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1232 "2010-09-22T20:56:40Z")

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This sounds like it was asked as part of the hiring process, though. Even if the data gets routed separate places, (a) putting it on the same form looks really bad, and (b) asking prospects instead of people you’ve given a job offer is still pretty damned shady.

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**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1233 "2010-09-23T00:04:15Z")

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Fuck you, Old Navy. And fuck you, too, Eddie Bauer.

I am a short curvy gal. For years you guys have been the only place I could buy jeans that fit and that I could afford.

Now, for some godforsaken reason, all Old Navy “short” jeans are \*four inches longer \*than they used to be. Ok, I get it. I’m supposed to wear your jeans with heels. But four inch heels???

And, YOU, senor Bauer. Fuck you and your anti-petite discrimination! You can only get petite jeans online. NO store carries petite in the store. Long? Sure, we carry long! Petite? Uh, no. for that you have to pay shipping! Thanks for flying Eddie Bauer!

Fuckers.

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1234 "2010-09-23T04:22:44Z")

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Summer’s over, morons.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1235 "2010-09-23T04:27:44Z")

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Summer is yet to start here.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1236 "2010-09-23T04:57:35Z")

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Jeans are getting longer? Yay! The only good thing about wearing fat lady clothes was that the legs were finally long enough for me - getting back into regular-sized clothes, the legs are getting too short again.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1237 "2010-09-23T10:34:22Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> This sounds like it was asked as part of the hiring process, though. Even if the data gets routed separate places, (a) putting it on the same form looks really bad, and (b) asking prospects instead of people you’ve given a job offer is still pretty damned shady.

Asking prospects is done frequently, at least in the job market (medicine) that I’m in. It helps with anti-discrimination issues - for instance, if you can show that few of one race or many of another apply, then hiring a low overall percentage of one or high of another is common. Usually when I’ve seen the online applications this kind of question is on the last “page”; you submit all the other data and then the “oh hai, please fill out demographics, thx” page comes up.

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**Author:** ![Cicero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cicero/32/3594_2.png) [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1238 "2010-09-23T12:41:51Z")

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> [@anya\_marie](#):
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> I locked myself out of my fucking house. Fuck.

Where can I buy one of these “fucking houses?”

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**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1239 "2010-09-23T13:21:09Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Summer is yet to start here.

The whole concept of summer is meaningless if you insist on a global perspective.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/whew-its-hot-out-here-summer-mini-rants/544239/1240 "2010-09-23T15:02:00Z")

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> [@niblet\_head](#):
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> Fuck you and your anti-petite discrimination! You can only get petite jeans online. NO store carries petite in the store.

Welcome to my life, but with clothes for tall women. Old Navy/Gap/Banana Republic have an amazing selection of clothing–INCLUDING TOPS–filed under “Tall,” but they \*only \*carry it online (they occasionally have Long pants in the stores, but they usually aren’t quite long enough). The only place I’ve been able to find pants with 35" and 37" inseams is Alloy’s website.

I see Petite shit **everywhere** , however. Hell, in most stores, you get your own fucking _section_. I have \*never \*seen a Tall section for women in a clothing store. Women can be short, or we can be fat, but we can’t be over 5’8".

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