I’d be interested in hearing what, in your opinion, is the difference between “Western Logic” and “Eastern Logic.”
I recently read this book (written by two philosophers):
The authors spend a couple of pages discussing the difference between Greek/Aristotelean and Indian argumentation, and they claim that Indian syllogisms are focused on persuasion where Greek syllogisms are focused on logical validity.
Logic has different branches. I would imagine that symbolic logic/formal logic fits easily in computer sciences, while informal logic is more apt for languages.
See the wikipedia article:
Logic as conceived in the Trivium was more closely related to language arts (grammar, logic and rhetoric), while symbolic logic looks much more like mathematics.
First time I took Logic I dropped it. I was not clear on what the subject was (just ticking a box on a requirement) and it was terrible.
A year or so later I needed that requirement and took the class again. Different professor and I loved it and did very well in it. Most importantly, he made it fun.
A good professor is always important but more for some classes than others. I think this is one where a good professor makes a big difference.
Agree. My professor was a good one too. He made it interesting and he made it fun. One thing I remember, one day when we were discussing an important criminal court case at the time, is that he made the important distinction that the verdict is not that the person is determined to be Innocent, it is that the person is determined to be Not Guilty. A big difference there.
Classical logic and, let’s say, temporal intuitionistic fuzzy logic are not going to be have the same axioms or even the same syntax and semantics. Is there a single “real world” logic?
And I suspect it might vary by species, if there are other species having this sort of discussion somewhere. I think humans are trying, in varying ways, to wrap our heads around a universe that doesn’t fit inside our heads. That’s not a reason why we should stop trying, of course – probably the fact that we keep trying to do so is one of the definitions of being human.
Thats a long discussion and better done over drinks on a weekend . I’ll quote two examples, that perhaps illustrates the difference :
Catuṣkoṭi : This is foundational for the “Middle Path” in Buddhism Catuṣkoṭi - Wikipedia
Edward DeBono (of Lateral Thinking fame) : "De Bono traces the rigidity in Western thinking and orthodox education back to the Middle Ages, when the church was the seat of learning. The church’s intellectual needs were to defend its established theology against heretics. “For four centuries,” de Bono says, washing down the last of his sweet roll, “the educational system, the schools, seminaries, and universities were controlled by the church and thinking was designed to preserve a particular theology, by destroying any attempt to alter it. It’s really nonsensical, but it has dominated our thinking ever since.” Edward de Bono; TEACHING THE WORLD TO THINK - CSMonitor.com
It used to be that there were three big areas a philosophy professor might fit into – logic, history of philosophy, and attempting the sort of philosophy historians of philosophy write about.
Logic has gone into a relative decline within philosophy. I see from this thread that some other departments (math and computer science) may be filling the gap.
I would say logic belongs to philosophy. Philo=love, sophy=knowledge or wisdom?
Whatever you’re studying, you want to strive to be sure that you really know what you think you know. It underpins everything, I think. Besides philosophy class, I think I learned it when constructing arguments in English (persuasive writing) and speech classes (debate etc.) as well.
Not CS, but my wife’s Philosophy prof occasionally noted differences between what she was being taught and how “the Evil Math Department” did things. Something about the empty set.
Discrete mathematics has Boolean algebra, known as mathematical logic. This is very useful in Computing Science when juggling all those bits and bytes and electronic logic gate circuits.
There is also logic programming, a feature of some computing languages.
How this relates to philosophical logic is not clear to me.
Perhaps ‘logic’ is an overloaded word?
Maybe there is one of those ‘family tree of mathematics’ diagrams out there that explain the connection?