# Which actor/actresses have not aged well. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 12, 2011, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894 "2011-12-12T10:19:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/61 "2011-12-13T14:40:03Z")
No mention of Joan Van Ark? [Oy](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-499391/Knots-Landing-star-Joan-Van-Arks-shocking-look-reveals-failure-turn-time.html). ---
**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/62 "2011-12-13T15:06:40Z")
I am convinced that Joan Van Ark was killed by a deranged, obsessed fan who has taken over her identity and is wearing a mask made from her face. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/63 "2011-12-13T15:32:21Z")
> [@Sarabellum1976](#): > > No mention of Joan Van Ark? [Oy](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-499391/Knots-Landing-star-Joan-Van-Arks-shocking-look-reveals-failure-turn-time.html). Oy is right. I think **Death of Rats** might be onto something. In seriousness and to be fair, the linked article does make it sound like the look is the result of poorly done plastic surgery rather than simply aging badly. > [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > I notixe that the three major Star Wars actors have been mentioned in this thread (Ford, Fisher & Hamill). Coincidence? I personally think Ford and Fisher both still looks pretty darn good, though it does vary a good deal from one picture to another. ---
**Author:** ![VOW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vow/32/3043_2.png) [@VOW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VOW)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/64 "2011-12-13T16:06:25Z")
The people who have had abysmal plastic surgery, especially the lip-plumping, make me retch. Melanie Griffiths was one of the worst. Burt Reynolds is a cartoon. Sophia Loren looks FANTASTIC. Betty White is incredible. ~VOW ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/65 "2011-12-13T16:14:10Z")
> [@zoid](#): > > I hardly recognize [Shelly Long](http://l.yimg.com/l/im_sigg9IWONpsdq8Pm9UDqZmOvBg---x626/tv/us/img/site/33/12/0000083312_20111020151411.jpg) these days. Shelly Long was born in 1949. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/66 "2011-12-13T16:24:18Z")
> [@VOW](#): > > The people who have had abysmal plastic surgery, especially the lip-plumping, make me retch. Melanie Griffiths was one of the worst. > > Burt Reynolds is a cartoon. > > Sophia Loren looks FANTASTIC. > > Betty White is incredible. > ~VOW Rachel Welch’s photo on wiki seems to show an unbelievable 70 year old. I think a lot of the “leather” skin look (on other celebs mentioned in the thread) might be attributed to lots of time in the sun. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/67 "2011-12-13T17:18:47Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > I think a lot of the “leather” skin look (on other celebs mentioned in the thread) might be attributed to lots of time in the sun. Probably. Sun’s a bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/68 "2011-12-13T17:44:07Z")
Of course celebrities have spent more time tanning than the average Joe. People (caucasian people, to be more specific) tend to photograph better if they have a little color. Want to look great in a photograph? Get a tan, go on a hard diet for a few days (to bring out the cheekbones), bleach your teeth, add some heavy pancake makeup, and voila! Trouble is, none of these things are a good idea to do all the time. Most of them are bad for your skin. Look great today, pay for it in a few years. Fair trade-off? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/69 "2011-12-13T17:50:03Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I was watching the DVD features for _The Sting_ about a year ago. They had Newman and Redford being interviewed for the twentieth anniversary of the movie. The surprising thing was that the 78-year-old Newman was looking in a lot better shape than the 67-year-old Redford. Redford has very fair skin, and spends a LOT of time outdoors. Could explain it. ---
**Author:** ![fjs1fs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9e8a1a/32.png) [@fjs1fs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fjs1fs)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/70 "2011-12-13T18:12:28Z")
> [@LionelHutz405](#): > > Shatner gone to seed? > He looks great for 80. > > [http://www.who2.com/blog/2011/03/william-shatner-is-80-amazingly](http://www.who2.com/blog/2011/03/william-shatner-is-80-amazingly) I second this! I said it recently, and when I saw him listed in this thread I was baffled. I don’t think I’ve seen a better looking 80 yr old. Maybe Regis, if he’s made it yet. ---
**Author:** ![wonderlust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonderlust/32/7237_2.png) [@wonderlust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonderlust)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/71 "2011-12-13T20:03:34Z")
This one just about knocked me out of my chair! I’m old enough to remember Little House on the Prairie. [Melissa Gilbert](http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/showbiz/celebrity-news-gossip/melissa-gilbert-knew-sister-sara-was-gay/index.html) has that inhuman-faced, beestung lip look that everyone in L.A. has. I can’t figure out for the life of me, why they think that all that “work” makes them attractive. ---
**Author:** ![kushiel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbce88/32.png) [@kushiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kushiel)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/72 "2011-12-13T21:14:27Z")
We’re getting a lot of older actors in here over a longer time period, I’m going to pick one from a shorter time period. [Val Kilmer, 1995](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1348713216/nm0000174). [Val Kilmer, 2009](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4102262272/nm0000174). It’s been a rough 14 years, man. But he also doesn’t seem to care, so it’s all good. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/73 "2011-12-13T21:30:27Z")
> [@kushiel](#): > > We’re getting a lot of older actors in here over a longer time period, I’m going to pick one from a shorter time period. > > [Val Kilmer, 1995](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1348713216/nm0000174). [Val Kilmer, 2009](http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4102262272/nm0000174). It’s been a rough 14 years, man. But he also doesn’t seem to care, so it’s all good. 😃 He’s gained a lot of weight, but he hasn’t aged badly. He would look great if he lost weight. Edit: He has lost a lot of weight and looks very handsome. > **[Actor Val Kilmer is photographed for Self Assignment at the Toronto...](https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/actor-val-kilmer-is-photographed-for-self-assignment-at-the-news-photo/128296203)** > > Actor Val Kilmer is photographed for Self Assignment at the Toronto Film Festival on September 12, 2011 in Toronto, Ontario. ---
**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/74 "2011-12-13T21:30:36Z")
Malcolm McDowell was quite the hottie in the Clockwork Orange era. Nowadays… not so much. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/75 "2011-12-13T21:43:00Z")
I saw Be Kind Rewind, and was surprised at how old Danny Glover looked, until I remembered that the last movie I saw him in was (I think) Predator 2, which was about 20 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/76 "2011-12-13T21:43:22Z")
This thread is so completely strange. Newsflash: the vast majority of human beings are decreasingly attractive by conventional standards as the years pass! The more years, the less attractive they become, usually starting somewhere in their thirties. About the only person I can think of who is, IMHO, more fundamentally attractive at 53 than she’s ever been in her entire life (when she’s in full makeup, but still good barefaced) is Ellen Degeneres. It kinda drives me nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/77 "2011-12-13T22:15:55Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Newsflash: the vast majority of human beings are decreasingly attractive by conventional standards as the years pass! The more years, the less attractive they become, usually starting somewhere in their thirties. Not Elizabeth Hurley. She was actually kinda gawky when she was young (at [18](http://sexynudegals.net/ElizabethHurley/ElizabethHurley69/gr-elizabeth-hurley-aria14.jpg) and [27](http://www.jsrpages.co.uk/youngeh.jpg)) and she looks better now (at [37](http://www.hotflick.net/flicks/2002_Serving_Sara/002SSR_Elizabeth_Hurley_045.jpg) and [46](http://film-book.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/elizabeth-hurley-blue-dress-gq-magazine-party-01-686x1024.jpg)) ---
**Author:** ![Peanuthead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peanuthead/32/360_2.png) [@Peanuthead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peanuthead)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/78 "2011-12-13T23:36:41Z")
The age old question… [Mary Ann](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=dawn+wells+2011&hl=en&sa=X&rls=ig&biw=1600&bih=814&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=EWJkQ6DWgLBURM:&imgrefurl=http://www.youngeryou.com.au/galleries/celebrity-galleries/photo-gallery-sexy-70s/attachment/danw-wells-72&docid=fgTmLwxtey3uaM&imgurl=http://www.youngeryou.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/danw-wells-72.jpg&w=355&h=474&ei=VeDnTtcyhe7aBeigsc4I&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1363&vpy=122&dur=4682&hovh=259&hovw=194&tx=144&ty=121&sig=101475704138887912617&page=1&tbnh=148&tbnw=118&start=0&ndsp=36&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0) or [Ginger](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=tina+louise+2011&hl=en&rls=ig&gbv=2&biw=1600&bih=814&tbm=isch&tbnid=NbCSUV1RH9XkZM:&imgrefurl=http://broadwayworld.com/article/Photo_Coverage_THE_BREAK_OF_NOON_Opening_Night_Curtain_Call_Party_20101123&docid=DS6ZCs0FbwI3IM&imgurl=http://images.broadwayworld.com/upload4/188373/tn-500_louisewm453027135.jpg&w=391&h=600&ei=_d_nTu62F4ni2AXG5t3jCA&zoom=1)? I think Mary Ann wins this one. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Lord\_Il\_Palazzo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Il_Palazzo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/79 "2011-12-14T00:07:54Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > Newsflash: the vast majority of human beings are decreasingly attractive by conventional standards as the years pass! The more years, the less attractive they become, usually starting somewhere in their thirties. And the concept of this thread is that some people remain attractive more or less than average as they age. This thread isn’t about people who simply look older over time (who doesn’t), it’s about people who look significantly worse than one would expect as a result of getting older. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894/80 "2011-12-14T00:09:45Z")
Kathleen Turner. I believe she was seriously ill or something, but she basically turned into a man. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-actor-actresses-have-not-aged-well/605894.md?page=5)