# Which are worse – the Star Wars prequels or The Hobbit movies?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 21, 2015, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363 "2015-10-21T16:03:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/61 "2015-10-22T05:14:06Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> \*and even if he did, there’s no fucking way she took a shine to one of Thorin’s party. :dubious:

In Tolkien’s universe, from the point of view of an elf a love affair with a dwarf would be only one step up from bestiality.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/62 "2015-10-22T05:42:13Z")

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_The Hobbi_t.

My reasoning is thus - I’m still stoked for the new\* Star Wars\*, despite the prequels. But if you told me PJ was bringing out a Silmarillion movie, I would tell you I don’t give a fuck. That’s how thoroughly he destroyed all the goodwill he’d built up with the _LoTR_ movies (which I loved). From the shit-covered radagast to the elf-dwarf lovestory to the made-up retread characters bloating everything (Oh, look, another giant deformed albino orc!) to the fucking rockworms, just shit-on-shit-on-shit.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/63 "2015-10-22T05:43:42Z")

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The prequels were worse, but the Hobbit movies pissed me off far more.

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**Author:** ![Shearer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/57b2e6/32.png) [@Shearer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shearer)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/64 "2015-10-22T07:03:16Z")

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> [@zombywoof](#):
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> Seems to me a lot of you here are masochists, who take pleasure in recounting the fact that you put yourselves through the ordeal of watching these six (six!) long, bad movies - I mean, really, why would anyone uninterested in a disappointing experience watch any (much less all) of them?

Wouldn’t go near them. I could read the Hobbit in half the time it takes to sit through the films anyway

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**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/65 "2015-10-22T07:12:00Z")

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_The Hobbit_ is worse, because at least Lucas was only pissing on his \*own \*source material.

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**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/66 "2015-10-22T07:17:37Z")

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The SW prequels are worse, the Hobbit is far more disappointing. And also shit.

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/67 "2015-10-22T12:25:19Z")

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> [@zombywoof](#):
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> Seems to me a lot of you here are masochists, who take pleasure in recounting the fact that you put yourselves through the ordeal of watching these six (six!) long, bad movies - I mean, really, why would anyone uninterested in a disappointing experience watch any (much less all) of them?

Umm, because we have to watch them at least once to find out that they sucked?

For the Hobbit movies, once is enough.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/68 "2015-10-22T13:01:28Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> Legolas didn’t have a girlfriend, dammit.

Well, yeah, he did. Her name was Gimli.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/69 "2015-10-22T14:03:57Z")

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Touche.

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**Author:** ![BlackKnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/eb8c5e/32.png) [@BlackKnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlackKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/70 "2015-10-22T14:25:15Z")

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> [@zombywoof](#):
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> Seems to me a lot of you here are masochists, who take pleasure in recounting the fact that you put yourselves through the ordeal of watching these six (six!) long, bad movies - I mean, really, why would anyone uninterested in a disappointing experience watch any (much less all) of them?

In my case, the only reason I watched the second two Hobbit films and the third Star Wars prequel was because of my nephews. They were watching them and I was trapped with them with no chance of escape.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/71 "2015-10-22T21:33:22Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> _The Hobbi_t.
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> My reasoning is thus - I’m still stoked for the new\* Star Wars\*, despite the prequels. But if you told me PJ was bringing out a Silmarillion movie, I would tell you I don’t give a fuck. That’s how thoroughly he destroyed all the goodwill he’d built up with the _LoTR_ movies (which I loved). From the shit-covered radagast to the elf-dwarf lovestory to the made-up retread characters bloating everything (Oh, look, another giant deformed albino orc!) to the fucking rockworms, just shit-on-shit-on-shit.

I don’t give a fuck about the new star wars because of the prequels. But I concede I also wouldn’t give a fuck about a Silmarillion movie.

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**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\
**Post date:** [October 22, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/72 "2015-10-22T21:53:01Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> _The Hobbi_t.
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> My reasoning is thus - I’m still stoked for the new\* Star Wars\*, despite the prequels. But if you told me PJ was bringing out a Silmarillion movie, I would tell you I don’t give a fuck. That’s how thoroughly he destroyed all the goodwill he’d built up with the _LoTR_ movies (which I loved). From the shit-covered radagast to the elf-dwarf lovestory to the made-up retread characters bloating everything (Oh, look, another giant deformed albino orc!) to the fucking rockworms, just shit-on-shit-on-shit.

Yeah, but Lucas isn’t doing the new movies. How would you feel if some other director took over and did the Silmarillion?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/73 "2015-10-23T00:24:25Z")

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> [@AlsoNamedBort](#):
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> Yeah, but Lucas isn’t doing the new movies. How would you feel if some other director took over and did the Silmarillion?

Oh, you mean like the director that made me not give a fuck about star trek?

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/74 "2015-10-23T13:56:23Z")

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The Star Wars prequels have stood the test of time. It’s like they have banks accounts full of badness with accumulating interest. They win.

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/75 "2015-10-23T15:53:47Z")

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The Hobbit was good. Both Star Wars and LOTR were bad. Lay off.

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/76 "2015-10-23T16:53:48Z")

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> [@Knorf](#):
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> The prequels were worse, but the Hobbit movies pissed me off far more.

This is a pretty good answer.

I’m still going with the Hobbitses. Watching the prequels, I felt like I was at least watching movies. The Hobbit movies, I felt like I was watching someone play a Hobbit-themed video game after entering the Konami code.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/77 "2015-10-23T17:30:59Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> This is a pretty good answer.
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> I’m still going with the Hobbitses. Watching the prequels, I felt like I was at least watching movies. The Hobbit movies, I felt like I was watching someone play a Hobbit-themed video game after entering the Konami code.

What does “entering the Konani code” mean?

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**Author:** ![August\_West](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/august_west/32/18069_2.png) [@August\_West](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/August_West)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/78 "2015-10-23T17:36:00Z")

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Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A.

It was a code used in a lot of early video games (notably _Contra_) that gave you superpowers, extra lives, or invincibility.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/79 "2015-10-23T17:38:48Z")

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The Star Wars prequels, but I think it’s a closer contest than many of you do. Or at least, when the films are judged on their own merits, independent of prior expectations or faithfulness to the source material, et cetera.  
In context, the prequels win by a landslide for the unmatched, devastating, soul-killing disappointment they delivered after so many years of anticipation. There simply wasn’t as much buildup for the Hobbit _trilogy_ [sic!!?] and I think most Tolkien fans were already fairly sated (or repulsed) by the umpteen hours of Jackson’s LotR movies.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-are-worse-the-star-wars-prequels-or-the-hobbit-movies/735363/80 "2015-10-23T17:50:25Z")

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> [@August\_West](#):
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> Up Up Down Down Left Right Left Right B A.
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> It was a code used in a lot of early video games (notably _Contra_) that gave you superpowers, extra lives, or invincibility.

Ah, I get it. Google said it was a cheat code, but I thought that just meant it gave the player a hint as to how to solve a puzzle or something.

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