# Which Avenger will never ever get a movie ?

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**Created:** [April 6, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421 "2011-04-06T17:29:54Z")\
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[cigar-chewing hollywood producer]Take all the Avengers who were  
a) Female  
b) wore skimpy costumes  
c) had large chests

and make a movie featuring them all as costars, calling it “The Avengerettes”. The movie would include lots of time spent cleaning up after battles in a large gym-locker style communal shower.

Story? Super-villain has evil master plan, gets defeated in climactic battle, when being carted off to prison screams “You haven’t seen the last of me!”  
[/cigar-chewing hollywood producer]

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/22 "2011-04-06T22:23:56Z")

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Giant-Man & the Wasp.

Unless it’s a porno.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
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> [@gytalf2000](#):
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> Hey, the Wasp has always been one of my favorite characters! Too bad she’s currently “dead”…

What? Did she ever have any decent stories? WHen I collected avengers she was in the all yellow leotard and was the lamest character ever.

The only story I can remember at the moment though was some comic with a character who could die over and over, but always came back as an 8-yr-old boy, and he went to the Avengers for help. Anyway, that was the era of the Wasp that I remember.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/25 "2011-04-06T22:54:18Z")

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The Wasp was pretty fucking stupid.

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**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/26 "2011-04-06T23:16:43Z")

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The only good characterization of the Wasp I can remember reading is Peter David’s treatment of her in [Spectacular Spider-Man #105-106](http://stevegoble.blogspot.com/2009/09/peter-parker-spectacular-spider-man-105.html). Apart from that she’s forgettable.

As to the worst Avenger’s character, Deathcry narrowly beats out other contenders such as Rage, Swordsman, Doctor Druid, Mantis and the female Yellowjacket.

I’m one of the few people who think that Hank Pym has great character potential, and if the stereotype of a Marvel character is a hero with clay feet, Pym is the epitome of that dynamic. I love the notion of a guy that has so much going for him and he’s not a bad guy, but he makes bad decisions and can’t seem to get out of his own way. But it seems like writers keep wanting to redeem him. I say leave him unredeemed, he’s more interesting that way.

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**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/27 "2011-04-06T23:21:20Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> Are you dense or something?

Heh. I see what you did there.

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> [@Don\_Draper](#):
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> I’d say **Jarvis** - whom at least Captain America considers an official member of the team. Not because he is a bad character, but because he’s a butler (or “gentleman’s gentlman”) with no super-powers. The only movie he could be the main star in would be a remake of “Remains of the Day.” I do hope though that he will be in the upcoming movie as a flesh & blood character, not some disrembodied computer voice.

I just wanted to stop in and say that I would totally see a _Remain of the Day_-type movie transplanted into a superhero universe. I’d camp out for tickets to that motherfucker.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
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> [@CalMeacham](#):
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> **Swordsman**
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> [Swordsman (character) - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swordsman_%28comics%29)
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> Who the heck even remembers him? They practically had to apologize about putting him in issue #100, which contained all Avenger members up until then.

I fully agree.

Reading that wikipedia article actually diminished my already negligible respect for the character.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/30 "2011-04-07T00:09:37Z")

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> [@B.Serum](#):
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> Heh. I see what you did there.

nyuk nyuk nyuk

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/31 "2011-04-07T00:51:19Z")

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Oddly enough…

Hawkeye. Yes, he’s a great hero. But he’s just not flashy enough for these days. If they were going to do a superhero archer, they’d prefer Green Arrow, I think. He’s a better-known character than Hawkeye, who always plays second fiddle to other Avengers.

I think that’s kinda sad, because I really like the character. C’est la vie.

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> [@Oakminster](#):
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> The Vision, maybe?

In 3D!

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I doubt any of the second-stringers will ever get a solo joint. It’s possible they could show up in the flagship film(s). I don’t yet believe that the Ant-Man movie will happen. Maybe the Black Panther someday.

It isn’t the Avengers without some combination of Wasp/(Gi)Ant-Man/Hawkeye/Vision/Scarlet Witch so hopefully some of them will show. I don’t have any hopes for any of them, except maybe Hawkeye.

Seems like I heard somewhere that Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver can’t be in the movie because they are tied up with the rights to the X-Characters. Even if that’s not true I suspect they’ll never get in, and will probably never be in an X-Movie either.

Before Whedon took on the reins for _Avengers_ I assumed that no one but the big three (plus the Hulk) would appear. But now I assume that he’ll at least put in some cameos. Whedon’s penchant for strong female characters will hopefully result in some kind of appearance for Wasp or Ms. Marvel or Tigra or somebody.

Really obscure folks like Mantis, Dr. Druid, Living Lightning, Firebird, Triathlon, or the black female Captain Marvel aren’t ever going to appear even if the franchise lasts for decades.

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Rick Jones couldn’t even get a walk-on in the Hulk movies, so I have little expectation of ever seeing him in an Avenger movie.

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**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/35 "2011-04-07T02:19:19Z")

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An issue about a hypothetical Captain Marvel movie. There’s two different [Captain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Mar-Vell)) [Marvel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Rambeau) characters in the Marvel universe but the best known [Captain Marvel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(DC_Comics)) is the Fawcett/DC one. This means there might be legal issues over a movie with a Captain Marvel character.

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**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/36 "2011-04-07T02:49:41Z")

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[“The Impregnator”.](http://www.zombo.com)Limited power set and allergic to latex. His only saving grace was he really filled out his spandex shorts.

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> [@kelly5078](#):
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> I don’t think Mike Gambit has much of a chance.

I think his chances are Purdy good, myself.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> An issue about a hypothetical Captain Marvel movie. There’s two different [Captain](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(Mar-Vell)) [Marvel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Rambeau) characters in the Marvel universe but the best known [Captain Marvel](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Marvel_(DC_Comics)) is the Fawcett/DC one. This means there might be legal issues over a movie with a Captain Marvel character.

You can get around that the same way Marvel did…spell it the way it was originally in the comic, Captain Mar-Vell.

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I think an Avengers movie from Jarvis’ perspective could be pretty cool.

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> [@astro](#):
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> [“The Impregnator”.](http://www.zombo.com)Limited power set and allergic to latex. His only saving grace was he really filled out his spandex shorts.

That would be [this guy](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=%22marcus+immortus%22&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbnid=uThUXpDUGN9kbM:&imgrefurl=http://www.comicvine.com/ms-marvel/29-21561/&ei=Uy6dTZv4BITg0gGepsDjAg&zoom=1&biw=1503&bih=630).

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