# Which Avenger will never ever get a movie ?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 6, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421 "2011-04-06T17:29:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/61 "2011-04-08T12:45:39Z")

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> [@BMalion](#):
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> All things considered, I’d pay money to see a Squirrel-Girl movie.

+1

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/62 "2011-04-08T14:20:42Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> I’m guessing the DC universe rights are tied up for a while. Numerous DC heroes have appeared on _Smallville_, including Green Arrow (Oliver Queen was a major character over several seasons).

Did not know that, thanks! Also, apparently Hawkeye makes a brief cameo in _Thor_.

> [@Icerigger](#):
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> When I first saw this thread my first thoughts were for John Steed or Mike Gambit.

With names like that, maybe they’ll turn up in pr0n.

> [@Grumman](#):
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> Why would you want to?

Sir, if I had a boxing-glove arrow now, I would bop you with it (after caroming it off of two walls first). 🆒

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**Author:** ![WotNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19b73/32.png) [@WotNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WotNot)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/63 "2011-04-08T15:54:27Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Did not know that, thanks! Also, apparently Hawkeye makes a brief cameo in _Thor_.

He does, yes. You can catch a quick glimpse of him in [this clip](http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/04/08/new-thor-clip-briefly-features-hawkeye/) (around the 0:23 mark).

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/64 "2011-04-08T16:19:54Z")

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I never really thought I’d see Thor, Iron Man or Captain America with their own movies so now it’s really hard to guess who couldn’t get their own movie. They can always twist the origin around, change the costume and make just about any character interesting. Or a flop.

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/65 "2011-04-08T21:15:38Z")

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Power Man & Iron Fist.

If the placed it _in period_.

The 70s.

With just a _touch_ of camp.

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [April 8, 2011, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/66 "2011-04-08T21:23:08Z")

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> [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#):
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> Power Man & Iron Fist.
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> If the placed it _in period_.
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> The 70s.
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> With just a _touch_ of camp.

I’ve always thought that a 70s Blackxpoitation/Kung Fu flick with those two could really be great. They’ve got the Superhero Buddy-Movie corner. And they are mid level players, which is a change of pace from any X Men or Avenger story. I would tend to think a Power Man/Ironfist (_with a touch of camp_) movie is the exact opposite of the OP.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [April 9, 2011, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/67 "2011-04-09T22:24:58Z")

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The original Human Torch. Too many people would confuse him with the FF Human Torch. Oddly enough the other three FF mains have all been Avengers at some point.

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**Author:** ![B.Serum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/b.serum/32/14266_2.png) [@B.Serum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/B.Serum)\
**Post date:** [April 10, 2011, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-avenger-will-never-ever-get-a-movie/577421/68 "2011-04-10T02:08:59Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> I agree. The key trait of the original Hawkeye is he’s an ex-villain. The key trait of the Ultimate Hawkeye is he’s a black ops agent. In both cases he represents something that makes the other Avengers distrust him. But as a solo character, there’s no other characters to feel that mistrust.

I have to disagree.

While Hawkeye’s first couple of appearances in Iron Man had him as more of an opponent to Iron Man rather than a villain per se — During his first outing in costume, he stopped a robbery. But he was led astray by the Black Widow, herself an ex-villain. In fact, Hawkeye’s other two fellow inductees, Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch were also villains (making that incarnation of the Avengers colloquially known as Cap’s Kooky Quartet). Beyond them, the Hulk, Swordsman, Moondragon, Namor, USAgent, and Sandman are all one-time villains who have also been inducted into Avengers ranks at one time or another and many of these would give cause for mistrust more than longtime hero Hawkeye.

I think most would say that Hawkeye’s chief defining characteristic is his habit of bucking authority (which in my opinion, made his longtime stint as leader of the West Coast Avengers undermine his character).

I think there’s maybe a little more legitimacy with a level of trust with Ultimate Hawkeye, but no more so than the rest of the black ops crew (especially Ultimate Nick Fury himself).

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