# Which came first, the accordin or the polka? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 26, 2000, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446 "2000-10-26T16:47:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![annalamerino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@annalamerino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annalamerino)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446/1 "2000-10-26T16:47:43Z")
This question was raised in the Wizard of Id comic strip today. And I said, oh surely it was the… Then I tried to look it up on the web. I found a Dickens quote on his “buying another accordion” in 1842. The operative word is “another”. And a quote about the Bohemians dancing the polka in Paris in 1840. Any better numbers out there? Perhaps in book of accordian sheet music? ---
**Author:** ![Suo\_Na](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@Suo\_Na](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Suo_Na)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446/2 "2000-10-26T18:58:03Z")
I think both are older than the 1840’s, but I’m having a hard time finding information. Let me ask my father, he knows quite a bit about both. I know the accordian did come from the Czech Republic, if that’ll help refine things. ---
**Author:** ![annalamerino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b3f665/32.png) [@annalamerino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/annalamerino)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446/3 "2000-10-26T19:08:29Z")
The only other dates I’ve found have been much later. “Russian composer Tchaikovsky included the accordion in his ‘Suite no. 2’ (C Major, op 53), as did Prokofiev in the ‘Cantata for the 20th anniversary of the October Revolution’” Who would have thought it was an orchestral instrument? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2000, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446/4 "2000-10-26T19:55:17Z")
I think for the purposes of popular familiarity, they originated at about the same time. The polka was introduced to Paris around 1840 (as you note), but it was an adaptation of a Bohemian folk dance, so it could have been much older. The word accordion entered English in 1831, putting it earlier than the introduction of the polka to Paris society, and it probably was a bit older in Germany. I was also surprised at the dearth of accordion history that is out there. It does not seem to have become a really popular instrument until the 1880’s or 1890’s, so the polka would have priority from that perspective. ---
**Author:** ![tshirts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/839c29/32.png) [@tshirts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tshirts)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2000, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446/5 "2000-10-27T18:51:23Z")
My copy of the OED [Oxford English Dictionary] says **Accordion … A portable musical hand-instrument invented in 1829 by Damian at Vienna.** So clearly it came first. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2000, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-came-first-the-accordin-or-the-polka/38446/6 "2000-10-27T20:15:11Z")
1829 clearly beats the 1840 introduction of the polka to society in Paris. (Of course, if the Bohemians were calling their wedding dances _polkas_ in the 1740’s (or 1640’s ) or earlier and they only made it out of Bohemia in 1840, that would indicate a different order of precedence. I do _not_ actually know when the Bohemians first danced the polka, but I suspect that a “folk dance” that was brought to Paris would have developed earlier than its first choreagraph in Paris. On the other hand, for the purpose of this discussion, the accordion is the clear winner.)