# Which candidate would make the worst president? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [August 18, 2011, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149 "2011-08-18T13:08:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/21 "2011-08-19T15:57:23Z")
Bachmann. I can see Paul being kinda like Alan Greenspan–grudgingly accepting that the tools of institutions must be used in the market as it exists. Bachmann is just out there. I’ve known a lot of people like her–good at getting people on their side, but absolutely incapable of getting things done. Behind every Bachmann there are always five or six people cleaning up the mess. I realize that the Presidency is the most delegated job in the world, but damn, that woman would fuck it up royal. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/22 "2011-08-19T18:12:18Z")
Perry, Bachmann, and Palin are a group taking ignorance to a brand spanking new level that should embarrass all Americans. Conservatives should run hard away from them. They will sink the party .They should. The right wing deserves ridicule for the class of politicians they are trying to foist on the country. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/23 "2011-08-19T19:04:21Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > What about 'em? Because we’re fighting ignorance. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/24 "2011-08-19T19:21:38Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > Because we’re fighting ignorance. So, fight my ignorance. What about 'em? ---
**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/25 "2011-08-19T19:47:46Z")
My nightmare is that President Obama is reelected and then assassinated. Joe Biden strikes as the man most likely to start World War III and lose. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/26 "2011-08-19T19:58:05Z")
> [@JoelUpchurch](#): > > My nightmare is that President Obama is reelected and then assassinated. Joe Biden strikes as the man most likely to start World War III and lose. There are a lot of nasty things you could say about Joe Biden with a reasonable amount of veracity, but I don’t get this one at all. Expliquez, s’il vous plait. ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/27 "2011-08-19T20:10:12Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > What about Obama’s Democrat challengers? There are no declared Democratic challengers that I’m aware of. Were you thinking of anyone specific? ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/28 "2011-08-19T20:31:01Z")
> [@Ace309](#): > > There are no declared Democratic challengers that I’m aware of. Were you thinking of anyone specific? I imagine there are a few fringe candidates who’ve officially declared, as there are in every election, but no one likely to pose a serious challenge. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/29 "2011-08-19T20:36:41Z")
sorry, doublepost. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/30 "2011-08-19T20:41:02Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So, fight my ignorance. What about 'em? I’ve no idea - I’m entirely ignorant on the matter. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2011, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/31 "2011-08-19T20:47:24Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > I’ve no idea - I’m entirely ignorant on the matter. In that case, [let’s have a look](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_candidates,_2012#Challengers): > [@](#): > > [**Randall Terry**](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Terry), born 1959, [pro-life](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-life) activist and founder of [Operation Rescue](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Save_America) from [New York](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York). In January 2011, Terry announced his intention to challenge President [Barack Obama](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama) in the [Democratic Party primaries](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_primaries,_2012) for the [presidential election of 2012](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012).[[8]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_candidates,_2012#cite_note-7)[[9]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_candidates,_2012#cite_note-8)[[10]](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_candidates,_2012#cite_note-9) He said he planned to run an ad featuring graphic photos of aborted [fetuses](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetus) during [Super Bowl XLVI](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XLVI) in February 2012 That’s pretty much it. Yawn. ---
**Author:** ![hodagg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@hodagg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hodagg)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/32 "2011-08-21T02:45:49Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Obama has created more jobs in 3 years than Bush did in 8 years. Presidents don’t create jobs…private businesses do. Obama has done more to scare off investment by private business than any president ever has. Companies right now are sitting one tons of money but will not invest it in growing their companies because of the uncertainty that this president has left them with: how much is Obamacare gonna cost them? What new regulations will be added to the already burdensome regulations that are strangling businesses? Obama is the most anti-business president this country has ever seen. Businesses are just waiting him out right now. He needs to go. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/33 "2011-08-21T03:40:35Z")
> [@hodagg](#): > > Presidents don’t create jobs…private businesses do. Obama has done more to scare off investment by private business than any president ever has. Companies right now are sitting one tons of money but will not invest it in growing their companies because of the uncertainty that this president has left them with: how much is Obamacare gonna cost them? What new regulations will be added to the already burdensome regulations that are strangling businesses? > > Obama is the most anti-business president this country has ever seen. Businesses are just waiting him out right now. He needs to go. :rolleyes: Yeesh. Really? Do you really think this? ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/34 "2011-08-21T03:57:15Z")
> [@hodagg](#): > > Presidents don’t create jobs…private businesses do. Obama has done more to scare off investment by private business than any president ever has. Companies right now are sitting one tons of money but will not invest it in growing their companies because of the uncertainty that this president has left them with: how much is Obamacare gonna cost them? What new regulations will be added to the already burdensome regulations that are strangling businesses? [Not really the case](http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-nohiring-20110814,0,7476876,full.story). Businesses hire when there’s an apparent sustained increase in demand. If businesses based their hiring decisions on political uncertainties years on the horizon, they’d never hire anyone, regardless of who’s in the white house. ---
**Author:** ![hodagg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@hodagg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hodagg)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/35 "2011-08-21T05:01:24Z")
> [@L. G. Butts](#): > > :rolleyes: > Yeesh. Really? Do you really think this? It doesn’t matter what I think. I don’t hire people. But these guys do and here’s what they have to say about it. [http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-oba](http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-oba) [http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578920/201107201835/Marcus-Home-Truths-On-Jobs.aspx](http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578920/201107201835/Marcus-Home-Truths-On-Jobs.aspx) ---
**Author:** ![humanafterall](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/humanafterall/32/19654_2.png) [@humanafterall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/humanafterall)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/36 "2011-08-21T05:34:52Z")
I’m going with Perry. His election would open the door to a theocracy. Read my post in the Rick Perry for President thread to learn more about who supports him. does New Apostolic Reformation mean anything to you? ---
**Author:** ![gatorslap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gatorslap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gatorslap)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/37 "2011-08-21T06:08:09Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > In that case, [let’s have a look](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(United_States)_presidential_candidates,_2012#Challengers):That’s pretty much it. Yawn. Don’t forget Lyndon LaRouche, who runs for president every chance he gets. The guy is a total nutcase though. ---
**Author:** ![JoelUpchurch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f05b48/32.png) [@JoelUpchurch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoelUpchurch)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/38 "2011-08-21T16:40:25Z")
> [@StusBlues](#): > > There are a lot of nasty things you could say about Joe Biden with a reasonable amount of veracity, but I don’t get this one at all. Expliquez, s’il vous plait. I was implying he has a huge case of foot in mouth disease. I don’t want him dealing with foreign leaders. I’d be a lot more comfortable if Biden was replaced by Hillary Clinton on the 2012 ticket. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/39 "2011-08-21T17:14:56Z")
> [@hodagg](#): > > It doesn’t matter what I think. I don’t hire people. But these guys do and here’s what they have to say about it. > > [http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-oba](http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-oba) > > [http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578920/201107201835/Marcus-Home-Truths-On-Jobs.aspx](http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578920/201107201835/Marcus-Home-Truths-On-Jobs.aspx) It appears that the plutocrats are holding the nation’s economy hostage until they get a president who will be (more of) their bitch. Heartwarming. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_fun_ball/32/17664_2.png) [@Happy\_Fun\_Ball](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Fun_Ball)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2011, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149/40 "2011-08-22T02:36:25Z")
> [@hodagg](#): > > It doesn’t matter what I think. I don’t hire people. But these guys do and here’s what they have to say about it. > > [http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-oba](http://blogs.wsj.com/deals/2011/07/19/casino-magnate-steve-wynn-slams-oba) > > [http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578920/201107201835/Marcus-Home-Truths-On-Jobs.aspx](http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article/578920/201107201835/Marcus-Home-Truths-On-Jobs.aspx) Dude, step away from the partisan blogs. I could link to some quotes by Soros or some Silicon Valley CEO about how President Obama is the best thing since sliced bread, but that would not make it true. I am not going to take the time to educate you on the causes for the current downturn, but I will say that it’s not Obamacare, it’s not Obama, and it ain’t even Bush. You sound like a partisan whackjob… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidate-would-make-the-worst-president/593149.md?page=3)