# Which Candidates Do You Support

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [January 8, 2012, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792 "2012-01-08T03:19:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/21 "2012-01-08T18:29:53Z")

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Rick Perry  
Ron Paul  
Rick Santorum  
Pat Paulsen

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/22 "2012-01-08T18:30:39Z")

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Being a teenager, Qin understands all too well that Santorum’s views don’t exactly lead to popularity.

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### Author: ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/23 "2012-01-08T18:45:15Z")

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I support Obama; I wouldn’t spit on the current republican candidates if they were on fire.

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### Author: ![Enlightening\_Meditation](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ecc23a/32.png) [@Enlightening\_Meditation](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enlightening_Meditation)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/24 "2012-01-08T19:02:36Z")

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I support Gary Johnson. He dropped out of the GOP primary to run for the Libertarian primary.

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### Author: ![DrumBum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e79b87/32.png) [@DrumBum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrumBum)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/25 "2012-01-08T19:03:08Z")

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Pres. Obama  
Former Gov. Huntsman  
Former Gov. Romney

The rest of them, with the exception of Rep. Paul, are just auditioning for a full time gig on NRO or Fox News.

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/26 "2012-01-08T19:31:52Z")

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> [@DrumBum](#):
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> Pres. Obama  
> Former Gov. Huntsman  
> Former Gov. Romney

That about sums it up for me.

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> The rest of them, with the exception of Rep. Paul, are just auditioning for a full time gig on NRO or Fox News.

Paul could make a good bit of dough on FOX, and they would be wise to offer him a job. He’s got a very dedicated following. Or maybe he’d be a good fit on MSNBC as a non-progressive voice that is often at odds with the GOP.

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/27 "2012-01-08T19:53:08Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Why vote for the only one with a tiiiiiiiiiiiiny chance of beating Barack Obama?

Because a lot could happen between the primaries and the general election. If the economy goes back into the tank, Obama may have a very hard time getting re-elected, regardless of who the GOP runs.

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### Author: ![AtomicDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ac91a4/32.png) [@AtomicDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AtomicDog)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/28 "2012-01-08T20:11:23Z")

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Obama.

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### Author: ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/29 "2012-01-08T20:15:01Z")

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Of those listed, and if tortured, I would choose Huntsman first, then Romney. They’re more moderate and Huntsman has a realistic notion of what it takes to govern. Romney is too much of a rich boy wannabe, but his biggest problem seems to be a lack of personality; he’s the Republican equivalent of Al Gore. He also seems more than willing to spout platitudes that he thinks the right wants to hear. Huntsman has refused all requests to sign those bullshit pledges about taxes or anything else, which makes him more of a realist than Romney is.

Ron Paul’s scorched earth ideas of doing away with taxes and most of the government is not only unrealistic, but not possible unless by some magic congress is suddenly taken over by libertarians; it’s pure demagoguery. Rick Perry is George Bush redux. The others have extremist and unrealistic views of governance that would go nowhere, basically wasting four more years of White House occupancy.

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/30 "2012-01-08T20:21:23Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Rick Perry is George Bush redux.

He’s like Bush without the brains. :eek:

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### Author: ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/31 "2012-01-08T20:30:46Z")

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See, I separate the candidates into three categories: those I’m okay with, those I have a problem with but see redeeming qualities in, and those whom I just plain don’t like.

Those I Don’t Have a Problem With  
Gary Johnson  
Ron Paul  
Jon Huntsman  
Barack Obama

Those I Have a Problem With, But Have Some Redeeming Qualities  
Romney (mostly okay, but too militant for my tastes)  
Gingrich (obnoxious, but fiercely intelligent)

Those I Don’t Like At All  
Rick Perry  
Rick Santorum

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### Author: ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/32 "2012-01-08T21:05:06Z")

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Just out of curiosity, what do you find “too militant” about Romney? I mean, I’m no fan, but the man is a human weathervane. He has no deeply held principles at all except for the conviction that he deserves to hold public office.

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/33 "2012-01-08T21:36:38Z")

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I hear good things about Gary Johnson.

> **[Gary Johnson & Civil Liberties](https://holdfastblog.com/2012/01/03/gary-johnson-civil-liberties/)**
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> For what it’s worth, yesterday’s post on Ron Paul and the debate he has sparked in the progressive blogosphere focused on the fact that Paul was the only major party candidate holding p…

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/34 "2012-01-08T21:38:30Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what do you find “too militant” about Romney? I mean, I’m no fan, but the man is a human weathervane. He has no deeply held principles at all except for the conviction that he deserves to hold public office.

Too nationalist, maybe. The man does have some overtones of Manifest Destiny in his rhetoric.

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### Author: ![The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecc23a/32.png) [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_wind_of_my_soul)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/35 "2012-01-08T21:59:17Z")

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> [@DianaG](#):
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> Just out of curiosity, what do you find “too militant” about Romney? I mean, I’m no fan, but the man is a human weathervane. He has no deeply held principles at all except for the conviction that he deserves to hold public office.

A big part of his rhetoric seems to be that we need to build up a big national defense, and intimidate everyone else by being the biggest and baddest. Admittedly, this viewpoint is not exclusive to Romney, but among the candidates, some seem to be more open to the idea of intelligent discussion and diplomacy with other countries than others. Santorum comes across as the most war-mongering of the bunch (to me), but Romney is right after.

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/36 "2012-01-08T22:00:09Z")

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> [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](#):
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> In order:  
> Jon Huntsman  
> Mitt Romney  
> Newt Gingrich  
> Buddy Roemer  
> Rick Perry  
> Everybody Else

Why would I support any of them? I’ve already got a candidate of my own party that I’m unhappy with; I’m supposed to consider supporting a candidate of the opposing party that would make me even more unhappy?

A few months ago, I was attempting to make a case that Obama should not be depending on the liberal vote to get re-elected. The more I watch the Seven Dwarves, the more Obama can count on my vote. What a bunch of numbskulls!

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/37 "2012-01-08T22:16:50Z")

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If I was an American, I would gladly vote for either Jon Huntsman or Ron Paul. I like Huntsman, and I like Paul’s position on war, torture and habeas corpus.

> [@Chefguy](#):
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> Ron Paul’s scorched earth ideas of doing away with taxes and most of the government is not only unrealistic, but not possible unless by some magic congress is suddenly taken over by libertarians; it’s pure demagoguery.

You say that like it’s a bad thing. I’d rather have a President whose bad ideas are so bad that they’re impossible to advance than a President whose bad ideas actually have a chance of success.

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#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/38 "2012-01-08T22:21:59Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> You say that like it’s a bad thing. I’d rather have a President whose bad ideas are so bad that they’re impossible to advance than a President whose bad ideas actually have a chance of success.

Both are a waste of time. The former never gets anything done. The latter gets things done that then need to be undone, or at least modified. Ron Paul is a crackpot and a racist, and I believe he’s on the verge of full-on dementia.

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### Author: ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)
#### Post date: [January 8, 2012, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/39 "2012-01-08T23:36:59Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> Barack Obama.
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> The rotted corpse of binLaden would be preferable to the clowns running for the GOP.

Anybody other than Ron Paul would have approved killing Bin Laden.

> [@Batfish](#):
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> Really? What do you have against Santorum. He seems like your kind of guy. If any of these Republican are elected you’re going to get about the same results on the social conservative issues.
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> Does the reminder of anal sex make you uncomfortable? You hate sweater vests? The dead baby thing?

He seems to think focusing on social issues will win him the election. Other than typical GOP platitudes, he hasn’t said really any word on economic policy. From what I have seen he will be the left’s caricature of George W Bush (which Bush really wasn’t)-divisive social reactionary, Islamophobic and ultraaggressive foreign policy, and no real reform of the economy.

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#### Post date: [January 9, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-candidates-do-you-support/608792/40 "2012-01-09T01:00:36Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Anybody other than Ron Paul would have approved killing Bin Laden.

Well, McCain said he wouldn’t, and Bush considered bin Laden to not be a priority at all. But I think you’re missing the point **BobLibDem** was making.

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