# Which celebrities do you loathe for their real personalities (as opposed to their media roles) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 27, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175 "2009-06-27T15:20:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/21 "2009-06-28T15:26:55Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > You’re currently holding a grudge for something he did 15 years ago, that you most likely misunderstood, considering that he adored and worshipped the ground Rosemary walked on, and HE’S the one who has to “get over hisbadself”?? Harsh. You’re like one of those people who’ll still be bringing up “Special Olympics” when President Obama is 85. :rolleyes: especially re the Obama remark. Kinda silly, no? I don’t hold a “grudge” against him–I pointed out an incident that made me lose admiration for him. So far, he’s done nothing to regain it. IMO he has a huge ego and comes across as arrogant. YManddoesV. But that’s the beauty of celebrities–I can hate or love or be indifferent to anyone I choose. None of it matters to them and none of it is important in my own life. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/22 "2009-06-28T15:28:05Z")
> [@Turek](#): > > And the winner is … OPRAH! Oh, God, yes. A million times, YES. (but her off screen persona may not be all that different from her TV one–either way, YES.) ---
**Author:** ![bigdfrombigd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/df705f/32.png) [@bigdfrombigd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bigdfrombigd)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/23 "2009-06-28T15:38:28Z")
Julia Roberts-America’s sweetheart???!!! Blechh. Arrogant a-hole. Ditto Sean Penn. Just shut. Up. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/24 "2009-06-28T16:02:27Z")
Wasn’t it Julia Roberts who jumped up on Denzel Washington and wrapped her legs around his waist when his Oscar win was announced? Blech, it always has to be all about her – get some humility girl! You ain’t all that! Also Halle Berry for her Oscar speech – she talked like she was the first African-American actor to make it, “This will open doors!” yadda yadda. Bitch. The doors were open, all you did was stumble through. Anne Heche for being an opportunistic bitch who IMHO has no compunction about using people. ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/25 "2009-06-28T20:18:23Z")
> [@](#): > > I don’t understand why Robin Williams can’t speak on moral issues because he used to do coke. That’s not why _I_ dislike him. I don’t like him because I don’t think he’s very funny, and because I think that his characters are always too heavy handed with the moral lessons. I think that the OP is questioning whether Williams has, in fact, given up doing coke. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/26 "2009-06-28T20:33:35Z")
In the 1980s and early 1990s, I got tired of the repetitive “children=good, grownups=EVIL” motif in his movies. I often hoped that when his own children became teenagers, they would put him through hell. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/27 "2009-06-28T20:37:08Z")
There is a theme with mine… Sean Penn, Patton Oswalt, Susan Serandon, Bill Mahr…Yeah, we get it, you’re a liberal just shut the hell up about it. I’ll third Oprah, way too much power for one person to have Mel, Russel, and Tom are fine with me, because after their big “things”, they seemed to settle down; especially Tom. I am a few minority who believes that the criticism he got for his “you’re ignorant” speech taught him something and now he stays away. ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/28 "2009-06-28T21:08:40Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > There is a theme with mine… > > Sean Penn, Patton Oswalt, Susan Serandon, Bill Mahr…Yeah, we get it, you’re a liberal just shut the hell up about it. > > I’ll third Oprah, way too much power for one person [whose views in the world are different to mine] to have > > Mel, Russel, and Tom are fine with me, because after their big “things”, they seemed to settle down; especially Tom. I am a few minority who believes that the criticism he got for his “you’re ignorant” speech taught him something and now he stays away. Fixed. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/29 "2009-06-29T00:03:16Z")
Yusuf, a.k.a. Yusuf Islam, a.k.a. the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens. He has recanted his endorsement of the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. But I am not convinced. I really like the stuff I have heard on his new CD, and I would buy it in a heartbeat, but I am worried about where the money might end up. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/30 "2009-06-29T00:35:43Z")
> [@ashman165](#): > > Fixed. I know you changed the quoted text to express your point of view, **ashman165** , but please remember that we don’t allow the editing of text inside the quote tags as outlined in the following post in our [FAQ - Rules for Posting at the Straight Dope Message Boards](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697048#post7697048) thread: > [@](#): > > Text inside [QUOTE] tags is sacrosanct. Normal editorial rules apply: that is, you may indicate omitted portions of a quote by the use of ellipses “…” and you may add text to clarify a word using square brackets (e.g., “her [the sister’s] friend”), but you may not add editorial comments or edit a quote so as to change the substantive meaning; nor may you substitute text such as “some blather” or “more nonsense” inside the [QUOTE] tags. The specific issue with your post was that you edited the quote to add your editorial comments. Next time, please just add your comments outside the quote tags. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/31 "2009-06-29T00:40:49Z")
Billy Bob Thornton’s meltdown on the Jian Ghomeshi show a few months back is enough reason to detest him in and of itself, but his follow-up refusal to apologize and defense of his actions and then developing the Yellowbelly Flu compounded it. The fact everything you read about him shows that he’s usually even worse (wife beater, deadbeat dad, obnoxious, narcissistic, etc.) exponentials it. It’s almost impossible to like any movie with him in it. Is it too soon after his widowhood to say Ryan O’Neal? His anger management (or lack of) is legendary, he’s thoroughly self centered and obnoxious in interviews, he was never more than moderately talented, and he has a long history of physically and emotionally abusing others that’s recorded not just in the memoirs of his daughter and the tabloids but in police records. Also, when you have a child who becomes messed up with drugs- it doesn’t necessarily mean you did anything wrong as a parent, there could be any manner of extenuating circumstances, but when ALL of your children by (at least two) different mothers have drug problems after growing up in your house, it’s probably got a bit to do with your parenting. (Farrah, bless her heart, was by most accounts a space cadet who was just kind of there in the household; she apparently liked controlling and belligerent men, since she left O’Neal for a guy who put her in the hospital, then came back to O’Neal). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/32 "2009-06-29T00:50:53Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Yusuf, a.k.a. Yusuf Islam, a.k.a. the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens. Heard a long interview with him and he mostly sounded not-insane and at peace with the world these days. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/33 "2009-06-29T02:06:46Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > Also Howard Stern. I think he’s just loathsome top to bottom. Does anyone have anything bad to say about him in his private life? Whatever his radio persona, he seems to be an upright guy personally. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/34 "2009-06-29T04:35:45Z")
I’m confused…what happened with my post? or what was quoted from it? or something?? Did I do something wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/35 "2009-06-29T04:42:36Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > I’m confused…what happened with my post? or what was quoted from it? or something?? > > Did I do something wrong? No you didn’t. **Ashman** did. He altered your post to the following, with my bolding for empasis: > [@Ashman's altering of STC's post](#): > > There is a theme with mine… > > Sean Penn, Patton Oswalt, Susan Serandon, Bill Mahr…Yeah, we get it, you’re a liberal just shut the hell up about it. > > I’ll third Oprah, way too much power for one person **[whose views in the world are different to mine]** to have > > Mel, Russel, and Tom are fine with me, because after their big “things”, they seemed to settle down; especially Tom. I am a few minority who believes that the criticism he got for his “you’re ignorant” speech taught him something and now he stays away. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/36 "2009-06-29T07:02:42Z")
> [@eleanorigby](#): > > I disliked Michael Jackson because he dangled a baby over the balcony in Paris (?) and IMO he was mentally ill, but “passed” as eccentric. I don’t deny his talent, but his lack of judgement outweighs it. Just my 2 cents. The way he was ‘bouncing’ Blanket in the Bashir interview was even more disturbing to me than the dangling incident, or the freaky way he screamed “ow ow ow” when Bashir tried to take off the baby’s veil (and that’s another thing). He was also a pathological liar. He claimed he’d only had a couple of plastic surgeries and both were necessary, that he took his daughter home from the hospital as soon as she was born as soon as the cord was cut and before the nurse even wiped her off [either a complete lie or severe child endangerment], and he insisted even to people who were there that Quincy Jones didn’t deserve any awards or mention for _Thriller_ or other albums he’d produced because “he didn’t do a single thing, I did everything”. (By ALL accounts Jones spent 18 hours in the studio several days a week for months and worked his ass off on the albums; Jones isn’t a living legend because he randomly comes in and signs off on other people’s work.) While I’ve no idea if Jackson really had vitiligo I think he was definitely trying to be as ‘non-black’ as possible (though God knows what ethnicity or even species he was going for). Vitiligo- if he had it- _might_ explain why he colored his skin, but not 1. He chose to go recolor it as white instead of his natural color [with theatrical make-up it’s just as easy or even much easier go darker than lighter] 2- Why he made his nose look as non-African American as possible (back when he had a nose) 2. Why he had his hair straightened Also it’s easy to think of someone $400 million in debt as being a problem only for megacorps and Arab sheiks and UK billionaires (all of whom he owed truckloads of money to), but he completely screwed a lot of ‘little people’ as well including housekeepers and groundskeepers at his estates who didn’t get paid for months at a time or roadies and vendors who didn’t get paid when he cancelled tour dates with little or no notice. He used the fact he had a horrible childhood as an excuse for freaking everything. Here the record seems to bear him out- he really does seem to have been robbed of a normal youth- but… not to be totally insensitive, too bad-so sad. LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of people had horrible childhoods- not in the same way he had it, but some had childhoods that made his look like the missing Walton, and they didn’t end up having improper relations with children (which while the pedophilia allegations were never proven, nobody can deny that the relations with children were improper) or for refusing to seek professional help that may have enabled him to cope and not force everything to fit his warped imaginings. He was at least as much sinning as sinned against, and the “wonderful beautiful person” eulogies have been sickening. BRILLIANT ARTIST- undeniable, but it’s not a synonym for great person. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/37 "2009-06-29T10:33:26Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Yusuf, a.k.a. Yusuf Islam, a.k.a. the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens. > > He has recanted his endorsement of the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. > But I am not convinced. > > I really like the stuff I have heard on his new CD, and I would buy it in a heartbeat, but I am worried about where the money might end up. UGH! I personally think that “Moonshadow” is clearly the worst lyrics ever written and one of the worst songs ever recorded. ---
**Author:** ![ashman165](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e8cbc/32.png) [@ashman165](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ashman165)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/38 "2009-06-29T12:02:44Z")
> [@SkipMagic](#): > > I know you changed the quoted text to express your point of view, **ashman165** , but please remember that we don’t allow the editing of text inside the quote tags as outlined in the following post in our [FAQ - Rules for Posting at the Straight Dope Message Boards](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=7697048#post7697048) thread: > > The specific issue with your post was that you edited the quote to add your editorial comments. Next time, please just add your comments outside the quote tags. So, I could leave out the quote tags and just use a standard “freehand text added here” type and be kosher? ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/39 "2009-06-29T15:28:33Z")
Can’t think of any celebrity I absolutely loathe. If they’re that bad they’re probably in jail somewhere and out of my field of view. If there’s someone that’s displayed violent tendencies, especially domestic, then they’re not someone I’m inclined to support the career of. Same with those that use their celebrity status as a pulpit for either moral or political purposes, regardless of the message. So if their SO has had to call the police a number of times, they’re slugging the paparazzi, screaming at their kid or throwing a public tantrum then my personal wish would be for them to kindly stfu. Alec Baldwin, Mel Gibson, Susan Sarandon, Tom Cruise, Russell Crowe, Sean Penn, Frank Sinatra, Barbra Streisand, Kiefer Sutherland, Chris Brown, Rosie O’Donnell, Ted Nugent… I’ve found their personal lives to at times become a bit of an unwelcome distraction. Basically, it’s just a minor annoyance when they get the big britches. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [June 29, 2009, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/40 "2009-06-29T15:42:12Z")
> [@ashman165](#): > > So, I could leave out the quote tags and just use a standard “freehand text added here” type and be kosher? I’ll risk being called out as a junior mod (look it up) and say, “Yeah, pretty much.” JFTR, “Fixed that for you” is kind of a red flag around here, and tends to suggest that moderator scrutiny is indicated. Welcome to the SDMB. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175.md?page=3)