# Which celebrities do you loathe for their real personalities (as opposed to their media roles) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 27, 2009, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175 "2009-06-27T15:20:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ellen\_Cherry](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellen_cherry/32/3600_2.png) [@Ellen\_Cherry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ellen_Cherry)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/61 "2009-07-01T13:15:04Z")
> [@tumbleddown](#): > > Yes, and he’s been hailed recently for taking the oh-so-brave stance that it’s time for marriage equality, as if he’s the first person, or even the first rock star or even the first white hetero man to say so. I don’t even get that. > > But back in March, I personally had a protracted (several hour) back and forth with the man on Twitter after I politely pointed out to him, after he used it four times in the span of an hour, that the word “tranny” is a pejorative and insulting term and not something that cool people say, especially not in the cavalier manner in which he was using it. > > He defended his use on the basis that “Eddie Izzard is a transvestite” but someone whose efforts at wearing women’s clothing (I don’t think he’d put the “tranny” label on the reverse behavior) are not aesthetically pleasing _to Rob’s personal satisfaction_ don’t deserve a respectful and appropriate label, they’re just trannies. I pointed out that by that “if X pleases me I respect it, if X displeases me I will insult it” justification, if I, as a black person did not act/dress/speak the way Rob wanted me to, then it would be okay for him to call me a nigger. He _really_ didn’t like having the direct parallel between his transphobic perspective and a racist perspective being so clearly laid out for him. > > Hence my dislike. If he’d said, at any point, okay, that word’s not cool, sorry, I’ve learned, all would be well. But he embraced and defended his ignorance and hurtful choices, and that’s not cool. So yeah, Rob Thomas from Matchbox 20 in my world? Persona non grata. I’m sure he’s all broken up about it, but I feel justified. Oh. Well. Goodness. I heard him talking about his songwriting and he sounded very kind and empathetic to people’s troubles. I don’t know anything about his politics, except that yes he did mention being for gay marriage, but not IMO in an asshole way. But the main thing I find interesting is that you had a big Twitter conversation with him! That seems so astonishing to me. But then, I only use it to send text messages to my daughter. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/62 "2009-07-01T13:23:59Z")
> [@Stoid](#): > > He’s (Robin Williams) also the biggest material thief in the history of showbiz. Making him about as low as it gets professionally. At least among _famous_ comedians, he certainly is. I don’t think people realize just how many of his jokes are stolen or how despised he is for it. But he’s a terrifically gifted actor all the same. ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/63 "2009-07-01T15:48:18Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > Yusuf, a.k.a. Yusuf Islam, a.k.a. the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens. > > He has recanted his endorsement of the fatwa against Salman Rushdie. > But I am not convinced. > > I really like the stuff I have heard on his new CD, and I would buy it in a heartbeat, but I am worried about where the money might end up. I heard him explain the fatwa (at the interviewer’s request); I’ve never heard him endorse it. In these troubled times, a little interfaith dialogue is a good thing, not grounds for boycotting a guy’s music. ---
**Author:** ![Sudo\_Intellectual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/73ab20/32.png) [@Sudo\_Intellectual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sudo_Intellectual)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/64 "2009-07-01T17:18:24Z")
Hilary Swank is the devil’s spawn in real life and I will never ever see another movie with her in it regardless of how amazing a job she does. It is sad, because she really is a terrific actress but the way she treated me and fellow co-workers at the clothing store I used to work at makes her the lowest of the low in my world. You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat people in the service industry, and Hilary Swank is a horrible human being. ---
**Author:** ![Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/41988e/32.png) [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/65 "2009-07-01T19:01:03Z")
I don’t like Andy Dick and cannot understand why people are still offering him any work at all. ---
**Author:** ![Darkhold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/90db22/32.png) [@Darkhold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darkhold)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/66 "2009-07-01T19:11:19Z")
> [@Tequila\_Mockingbird](#): > > I don’t like Andy Dick and cannot understand why people are still offering him any work at all. I didn’t even understand how he got work before I found out about his personal issues. He’s annoying drags down everything he’s in and by many accounts is hated by just about everyone. You know you’re a waste of life when Jon Lovitz kicks your ass. Did he sell his soul to the devil or something? ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/67 "2009-07-01T21:54:57Z")
> [@Sudo\_Intellectual](#): > > Hilary Swank is the devil’s spawn in real life and I will never ever see another movie with her in it regardless of how amazing a job she does. It is sad, because she really is a terrific actress but the way she treated me and fellow co-workers at the clothing store I used to work at makes her the lowest of the low in my world. You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat people in the service industry, and Hilary Swank is a horrible human being. Okay, you can’t say this and then not give details. Spill spill!😉 And was Chad Lowe with her or was this since the split? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2009, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/68 "2009-07-01T23:11:56Z")
> [@Darkhold](#): > > Did he sell his soul to the devil or something? Oh c’mon. Not even Satan wants Andy Dick hanging around. Although it would make Hell more Hellish for the Damned… “Yes, yes, all your friends are here, you can get laid any time, smoke anything you want, drink all the beer you want. But Andy Dick is here too.” ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/69 "2009-07-04T06:02:58Z")
Kirk Cameron for being an obnoxious fundie asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Khadaji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Khadaji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Khadaji)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/70 "2009-07-04T11:17:22Z")
Almost any that want to preach to me. Jenny McCarthy. Bill Mahar seems like a complete and total asshole on and off the camera - even when I agree with him. I no more want to hear about his views on religion than I do Pat Robertson’s. I get it, you’re an atheist, shut up about it already. His interview in Playboy last year made him seem like such a smug asshole I’m guessing I’d want to punch him just for walking in. (want to, not would.) ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/71 "2009-07-04T19:20:24Z")
I try to know as little as possible about celebrities’ private lives to avoid these issues. ---
**Author:** ![salinqmind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@salinqmind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/salinqmind)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/72 "2009-07-04T20:22:51Z")
Lindsay Lohan. I loathe her very existence. Demi Moore (not lately since she basically disappeared from public view) and her little hubby Ashton. Does Bill O’Reilly count? I only mention him because while channel surfing this morningI saw him flapping his gums in an interview with Paul Anka. Paul Anka! (nothing against PA, but come on!) In the past - Huey Newton (though he’s disappeared, too) - just the sight of his watery eyes and wrinkled face, trying to be “cool” - get lost, old fart! ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/73 "2009-07-04T20:34:02Z")
> [@Khadaji](#): > > Bill Mahar seems like a complete and total asshole on and off the camera - even when I agree with him. I no more want to hear about his views on religion than I do Pat Robertson’s. I get it, you’re an atheist, shut up about it already. His interview in Playboy last year made him seem like such a smug asshole I’m guessing I’d want to punch him just for walking in. (want to, not would.) Amen to that. He also seems to be under the delusion he’s A-List. On a recent Larry King interview he made some comments like “I go to a couple of parties at the Playboy mansion and the next day all that anyone talks about is ‘did you see that Bill Maher was at the Playboy mansion’ as if everyone things I’m a total horndog”. Watching this I was wondering “who in the hell talks about Bill Maher’s sex life one way or the other?” A bit behind Maher in line but for much the same reasons is Penn Jillette (of Penn & Teller). The TV show _Bullshit!_ contains as much misinformation as they claim to be combating, leaving out facts that don’t support their findings (e.g. “Yes, there _are_ more acres covered in trees today than there were a century ago, but they’re different kinds of trees and their effects on the environment/the ecosystems around them, etc., are completely different” or “Yes, etiquette coaches are a ridiculous elitist waste of time if by etiquette you mean someone should give a shit exactly how to hold a water glass, but not when you’re talking about common manners and things that people from other cultures find offensive [and may influence their decisions in a business lunch], etc.”. His blog on cracked dot com is as smug and self important as Maher. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/74 "2009-07-04T20:37:44Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > Kirk Cameron for being an obnoxious fundie asshole. His stupidity and ignorance deserve a twisting of his unseen nipples. When I particularly want to kick his nads is whenever he says “I used to be an atheist so I know how they think!” He was 17 when he was supposedly an atheist (and what he was I’m guessing was far closer to irreligious). When I was 17 I lived on a farm so I guess that makes me an expert on the mindset of farmers everywhere. Plus, if he was an atheist and his critical thinking was on par with what it is today (the infamous “banana” proof, the use of Pascal’s Wager and Watchmaker as if he has absolutely no clue he’s not the one who came up with them or that there are refutations to both, or the Crockoduck) then his conviction was probably based on a coin toss in the first place. What’s frustrating with people like him is that they have the time and presumably the money to actually _study_ the subject they decide to devote the rest of their life to. He could go to seminary, take courses in theology, at very least read Christian and atheist apologetics to better know his arguments, but nope- no need to, he’s enough of an expert to have TV shows and try to proselytize without having a clue what he’s talking about. (At least Jenny McCarthy apparently read the _abstracts_ of some scholarly articles on vaccines and autism, Kirk didn’t do that.) ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/75 "2009-07-04T20:38:54Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Crockoduck Crockoduck? ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/76 "2009-07-04T20:44:00Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > His stupidity and ignorance deserve a twisting of his unseen nipples. When I particularly want to kick his nads is whenever he says “I used to be an atheist so I know how they think!” Also: Like no atheists, conversely, used to be religious? ---
**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/77 "2009-07-04T21:07:25Z")
> [@salinqmind](#): > > Lindsay Lohan. I loathe her very existence. I think I could bring her back around to that bright, irrepressible pixie from **Mean Girls**! Okay, I’m kidding myself. > [@](#): > > In the past - Huey Newton (though he’s disappeared, too) - just the sight of his watery eyes and wrinkled face, trying to be “cool” - get lost, old fart! Um, any chance you mean Huey Lewis? ---
**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/78 "2009-07-04T22:11:15Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I try to know as little as possible about celebrities’ private lives to avoid these issues. So do I, but sometimes celebrities are invited to speak about issues I care about, or (worse) are trotted out as authorities/people I Should Pay Attention To, or they thrust themselves into issues that they clearly know nothing about (antivax). I would vastly prefer to hear nothing about them, but during the past several days, it seems that I can’t turn to any media and NOT hear about various aspects of Michael Jackson and how his life and death have affected the whole damn world. I didn’t care about him or his music when he was alive. I’m just not that into that genre. Now that he’s dead, I STILL don’t really care about him. But even a respected newspaper like the Dallas Morning News is running front page headlines and teasers about him. ---
**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2009, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/79 "2009-07-04T23:09:27Z")
Should they not? Regardless of whether you or I cared for him or his music, he was a figure with worldwide influence, and many others are reacting quite strongly to his death, which would seem to make it a major news story. I’d hardly consider that to make a newspaper non-respectworthy. ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175/80 "2009-07-05T00:17:48Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > Crockoduck? [Here’s a relevant video](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNTGmoTb8sw) (forward to about 2:05 to see the picture of this hypothetical creature). For those who can’t access YouTube: Cameron suggests that because [the crocoduck doesn’t exist](http://searchwarp.com/UserImages/142909/crocoduck.jpg), Darwin’s theory of evolution is refuted. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-celebrities-do-you-loathe-for-their-real-personalities-as-opposed-to-their-media-roles/501175.md?page=5)