# Which creation myth are you most fond of? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [December 26, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411 "2015-12-26T19:16:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/41 "2016-01-05T14:27:03Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Tolkien’s _Ainulindalë_: every bit as believable as Genesis, and infinitely superior artistically. If we’re including explicitly fictional literary accounts, I’ll offer C.S. Lewis’ “The Magician’s Nephew,” in which Narnia was sung into existence by Aslan. It’s been years since I read it, but for a long time I’ve imagined [Enya’s “Aldebaran”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ljt9dx0NA) as background music for it. ---
**Author:** ![Chihuahua](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@Chihuahua](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chihuahua)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/42 "2016-01-05T15:37:32Z")
The one myth that holds a particular fascination for me is the Gnostic version. To summarize: The world was created by an evil and probably insane deity while the ultimate God is remote and comparatively uninvolved. In this cosmology, the world and everything in it is the product of evil, and it is through gnosis (wisdom) that we are able to transcend it and be re-united with the ultimate God. I find this more plausible than the Biblical creation myth because it resolves the Problem of Evil: If your life sucks and the Earth seems like a crappy place, that’s because it is created and ruled by Satan. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/43 "2016-01-05T15:51:30Z")
I had vague memories that in Basque cosmology, “in the beginning was Father Sky, and he played marbles with himself having nobody else around to play with”. From what I find in a quick search that seems to be the gist of it; eventually Father Sky decided to see if he could make the marbles bigger, and made one bigger and bigger until it exploded. Some fragments became the Sun and stars, others made planets (the Moon is Mother Earth flying, though; don’t ask, I also have no idea if my foreparents had been eating too much amanita muskaria). Note that since the earliest written recordings are only about 200 years old, they are very much imbued by what popular science already knew at the time. Some of the versions I find include terms such as “particle” which I expect aren’t in those first recordings. ---
**Author:** ![Oddball\_92](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/b3f665/32.png) [@Oddball\_92](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oddball_92)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/44 "2016-01-05T16:15:52Z")
I am sure it will do little good to suggest to you that creation is not a myth. I believe God, in His infinite power created this universe. I hope that you who ridicule such notions will reconsider. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/45 "2016-01-05T16:39:41Z")
> [@Oddball\_92](#): > > I am sure it will do little good to suggest to you that creation is not a myth. I believe God, in His infinite power created this universe. I hope that you who ridicule such notions will reconsider. Maybe you could start a thread to present your evidence? ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/46 "2016-01-05T16:47:56Z")
**Oddball\_92** , people are offering up their favourite creation myths. The biblical account falls into that bucket. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/47 "2016-01-05T16:58:08Z")
> [@Oddball\_92](#): > > I am sure it will do little good to suggest to you that creation is not a myth. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary supporting evidence. So, sure, your suggestion will mean little more than my suggesting a flying herd of miniature spotted, green sperm whales just flew by my window in an inverse phalanx, whistling “The Star Spangled Banner” with a wild look in their pink-blue eyes. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/48 "2016-01-05T17:15:28Z")
Heretic. That was clearly “To Anacreon in Heaven” they were whistling. Prepare to be invaded. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/49 "2016-01-05T17:26:03Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > **Oddball\_92** , people are offering up their favourite creation myths. The biblical account falls into that bucket. This thread is about which one you’re most fond of, not which one you most ardently believe or wish to be true. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/50 "2016-01-05T17:36:10Z")
> [@GoodOmens](#): > > “Screw it, I’ll just wait until it gets hungry.” That’s actually pretty amusing to think about Adam just following the anteater around all day trying to figure out what to name it. “Hmmmm it’s smelling a leaf. Leafsniffer? nah.” “Now it’s licking a tree. Treelicker? nah” “Now it’s peeing on those ants. Antpee’er? nah” “Ewwww now it’s eating the ants it just peed on. Screw it Anteater it is.” I haven’t met a creation myth I didn’t enjoy. I’m really digging the creation myth in the current story arc of Supernatural. “In the beginning was the Darkness. And then her younger brother God pulled a jerk move and locked her away to create creation. And he did this because he is vein and wants to be worshipped yet he doesn’t help his creation and lets them suffer.” -The Darkness. Or something like that. **The Egg** is also a really cool idea. ---
**Author:** ![rat\_avatar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rat_avatar/32/255_2.png) [@rat\_avatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rat_avatar)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/51 "2016-01-05T17:57:40Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Through the _sipapu_, which is also the Acama creation myth. The old deserted Pueblo ruins have sipapus in their kivas. > > I like the raven myths. Raven is always depicted as a creator and a trickster in nearly all Native American cultures. The Haida semi-creation story is a great one involving ravens. Basically a greedy old man kept all the light from the universe in a box selfishly for him self. The raven turned into a pine needle as he saw the mans daughter drinking from a stream and when she drank him the raven turned into a baby. After she birthed her the raven cried and cried until the old man took the light out of the box and handed it to his “grandson”. Then the raven turned back into a bird, flew up the chimney and released the light for everyone to use. ---
**Author:** ![IDtenT\_Error](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@IDtenT\_Error](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IDtenT_Error)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/52 "2016-01-05T18:06:32Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > Solipsism. Sometimes other people aren’t there, but I’m always here. When I’m gone, everybody else will be too. Prove me wrong! Actually it’s pretty easy to prove you wrong. Just shoot you in front of witnesses. All the witnesses will look around and see they all still exist, and conclude that the shooter successfully proved you wrong. Of course, _you_ won’t be around to agree, but your agreement isn’t required to prove to _other people_ that you were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/53 "2016-01-05T18:13:39Z")
> [@IDtenT\_Error](#): > > Actually it’s pretty easy to prove you wrong. Just shoot you in front of witnesses. All the witnesses will look around and see they all still exist, and conclude that the shooter successfully proved you wrong. Of course, _you_ won’t be around to agree, but your agreement isn’t required to prove to _other people_ that you were wrong. But you can’t prove it wrong to _him_, can you? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/54 "2016-01-05T18:57:33Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > If we’re including explicitly fictional literary accounts, I’ll offer C.S. Lewis’ “The Magician’s Nephew,” in which Narnia was sung into existence by Aslan. It’s been years since I read it, but for a long time I’ve imagined [Enya’s “Aldebaran”](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43ljt9dx0NA) as background music for it. Ooh, I forgot that one. I really like that. I kinda like the big bang theory, too, which I guess was attributed to Terry Pratchett above. ---
**Author:** ![IDtenT\_Error](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@IDtenT\_Error](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IDtenT_Error)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/55 "2016-01-05T19:26:19Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > But you can’t prove it wrong to _him_, can you? Of course not, since, as framed, the idea is logically impossible to disprove to the claimnant. He can’t simultaneosly cease to exist, yet still exist to see for himself that everyone else is still here. Solipsism is logically unfalsifiable to the person claiming it. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/56 "2016-01-05T19:29:20Z")
> [@IDtenT\_Error](#): > > Of course not, since, as framed, the idea is logically impossible to disprove to the claimnant. He can’t simultaneosly cease to exist, yet still exist to see for himself that everyone else is still here. Solipsism is logically unfalsifiable to the person claiming it. Unless, of course, there _is_ an afterlife and he views life going on after he dies. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/57 "2016-01-05T19:30:36Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Unless, of course, there _is_ an afterlife and he views life going on after he dies. 😃 Maybe that’s the only reason we’re still here at all. The moment he gets bored with watching us all on his afterlife-o-matic crystal ball… poof! Away we go. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [January 5, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/58 "2016-01-05T21:58:25Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Heretic. That was clearly “To Anacreon in Heaven” they were whistling. Prepare to be invaded. Could have sworn I heard the break strain. Regardless. Bring it! 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [January 7, 2016, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411/59 "2016-01-07T00:01:52Z")
The Big Phoomp Theory. For His own amusement, God lit a fart. From that Phoomp, the universe expanded. Et cetera. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-creation-myth-are-you-most-fond-of/741411.md?page=2)