# Which dystopia do you find the most plausible?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 31, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659 "2015-07-31T16:42:50Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/41 "2015-08-01T16:09:23Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> 1984 is totally plausible as an anti-homosexual “conversion” method. Torture a gay person until they become straight or at least find sex abhorrent? Sounds extremely likely to me.

For where? And by whom?

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**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/42 "2015-08-01T16:35:02Z")

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> [@Penfeather](#):
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> Idiocracy.

Exactly what I came in here to say. There are days I would swear we are already about 50% there.

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**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/43 "2015-08-01T17:06:47Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> I think you mean 26 million Best Koreans.

Not sure I follow you. Are you alluding to the brainwashing of NK’s that they are living the best life on the planet?

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/44 "2015-08-01T19:25:23Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Not sure I follow you. Are you alluding to the brainwashing of NK’s that they are living the best life on the planet?

That seems clear enough.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/45 "2015-08-01T20:00:10Z")

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> [@Quimby](#):
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> Wow, between Stand on Zanzibar, Sheep Look Up and Shockwave Rider, I’m starting to think John Brunner may have been a time traveler 🙂

It’s the popular theory.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/46 "2015-08-01T21:13:39Z")

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> [@silenus](#):
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> We’re about an election away from _The Handmaid’s Tale_. Toss in a few more years and we’re in the middle of Nehemiah Scudder’s theocracy.

Have you actually read it? I was about to nominate it for least plausible. The divergent books are not plausible but in a different way, because the world is not presented as an evolutionary descendent of ours. But can the country that just legalized same sex marriage really be said to be descending into theocracy?

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> [@erysichthon](#):
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> _The Hunger Games_. Not so much the “games” part of it, but the idea of the super-rich living in their walled enclave, while the rest of us live in squalor and toil in fields and factories to feed the bottomless appetites of our job-creating betters.

This.

We are Disposable Human Resources, in their eyes.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/48 "2015-08-01T22:03:48Z")

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> [@enipla](#):
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> Not sure I follow you. Are you alluding to the brainwashing of NK’s that they are living the best life on the planet?

It’s a [joke](http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/best-korea). Black humour.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/49 "2015-08-01T22:17:07Z")

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Great thread idea, before some else says it I just have to add least likely: “Soylent Green is People!!!” At least the cannabism, I’ll throw the Mad Max stuff in there as pretty ridiculous too.

There are definitely things from 1984 and Minority Report that seem to be on their way and things involving global warming from other books or movies.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/50 "2015-08-01T22:38:53Z")

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> [@Hari\_Seldon](#):
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> Have you actually read it? I was about to nominate it for least plausible. The divergent books are not plausible but in a different way, because the world is not presented as an evolutionary descendent of ours. But can the country that just legalized same sex marriage really be said to be descending into theocracy?

It obviously can’t, which was why I found it so hilarious. Maybe if you live in the Middle East, I guess it would be plausible. A lot of countries there are pretty much theocracies already.

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**Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/51 "2015-08-01T23:04:52Z")

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> [@pool](#):
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> Great thread idea, before some else says it I just have to add least likely: “Soylent Green is People!!!” At least the cannabism, I’ll throw the Mad Max stuff in there as pretty ridiculous too.
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> There are definitely things from 1984 and Minority Report that seem to be on their way and things involving global warming from other books or movies.

Soylent Green is questionable but Make Room, Make Room, the novel it is based on is quite realistic in its depiction of an over stuffed New York and world. In the book Soylent is just a mash of Soy and Lentils. The eating people stuff was only in the movie.

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**Post date:** [August 3, 2015, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-dystopia-do-you-find-the-most-plausible/726659/52 "2015-08-03T17:15:37Z")

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I’ve thought the first **Mad Max** movie did a great vision of showing civilization clinging to the edge of collapse, with free roaming gangs, poverty, and under-funded citizen vigilante police.

**Rollerball** (the original) almost seems naively quaint now. But of course athletes are bought/sold/traded as playthings of the media and the rich…

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