# Which Famous/Significant Works Have "The Americans" as the Villian? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 29, 2004, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757 "2004-02-29T16:49:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/61 "2010-10-25T16:59:07Z")
I may not be recalling this correctly, but wasn’t the island in the book run by the Ottoman Turks? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/62 "2010-10-25T17:21:14Z")
The U.S. sent troops to intervene in the Russian Civil War. Do any Soviet-era books or films about the war feature Americans as villains? ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/63 "2010-10-25T17:23:51Z")
> [@Sailboat](#): > > The book was apparently published in 1869, which might or might not mean Verne was aware of the end of slavery in the United States; or he might have simply been ignoring the then-recent changes. It seems unlikely to me, considering that the American warship that the heroes originally embark upon is the _Abraham Lincoln_, that Verne would be unaware of the effects of the Civil War - or that he would be ignoring changes of that great a nature. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/64 "2010-10-25T18:33:30Z")
There’s always [Nation’s Pride](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldrhzw-ZKbA). ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2010, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/65 "2010-10-25T18:35:33Z")
“The Quiet Earth,” a New Zealand movie from the early 1980s (basically) has the Americans as the bad guys, as it was an American experiment gone awry. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/66 "2010-10-28T13:11:02Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Has a Mexican filmmaker ever told the story of the Mexican-American War from the Mexican pov? [One Man’s Hero](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120775/), starring Tom Berenger. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/67 "2010-10-28T13:47:42Z")
There’s also “Dances With Samurai”, or whatever that Tom Cruise vehicle was. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2010, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757/68 "2010-10-28T13:57:15Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > There’s also “Dances With Samurai”, or whatever that Tom Cruise vehicle was. It’s about a [Japanese civil war](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satsuma_Rebellion) with Americans as supporting cast only. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-famous-significant-works-have-the-americans-as-the-villian/231757.md?page=3)