Which FBS Team has played the most FBS Opponents?

I did some thinking about this topic. One of the reasons is that I couldn’t understand the “first Big Ten team” comment, as if this stat can actually be used to make a point. This is confusing to me, as I can’t see this as something other than trivia, I don’t see that conclusions can be draw from it. Looking at the referenced thread and I saw it was associated with an SEC scheduling argument, and how well the travel.

Ok, given that context, I have something to work with. It also seemed to be just a Big Ten/SEC thing, and so I’ll exclude other teams from the lists. These lists don’t address the scheduling quality, really, but if it came down to which conference historically scheduled better, I’ll just tell you that it would be the Big Ten, and it’s not even close. Since 2002, the two conference’s schedule has leveled off, but prior to that, it’s not even worth discussing. The SEC had some long term rivalries with teams that got dropped to FCS and played a lot of the non-major teams over the years. This has had an impact on these lists.

First of all, let me point out the obvious falacy in measuring non-conference scheduling in how far you travel. The often mentioned fact that Florida hasn’t had a regular season non-conference game out side of Florida in 20 years.

Since 1990, in their regular season non-conference games, Florida has played 7 road games against teams that finished in the top 5.

There are 31 major schools that haven’t played that many ranked teams on the road over the same period.

Am I to infer that Florida’s schedule is somehow inferior because they haven’t left the state? If they had crossed the Alabama border and played Troy, instead of a top 5 team, would that have made their schedule tougher? Would a regular series against Syracuse instead of Florida State have made their schedule tougher? Of course not, the whole thing is ludicrious.

Second of all, let me point out that this list doesn’t really address the issue. Most obviously, it includes games played at home. Entertaining a wide variety of cupcakes does not make you some great road warrior scheduling wise. Also, obvious is that a team with a long standing serious with another, say USC and Notre Dame, might play 50 games and only have it count for one on a list such as this. Another team might play 10 different teams 1 time each and score ten more. The second team would have a higher total, but only have played 10 games to 50 of the other.

Now, let me address why the numbers are the way they are. I’m going to start with the bowl theory given earlier. It didn’t seem like this would be a huge factor, but since it was easy to test, I thought I’d check it.

First, the original list of all-time opponents who are current I-A:

Next, the same list, but excluded opponents that were only played in bowls:

Somewhat surprising to me, the bowls did have a noticable impart. SEC schools lost 108 opponents, Big Ten schools lost 79. This doesn’t really address schedling either, so I’ll move on.

Now, moving on to major and non-major schools. Non-BCS schools:

Not the SEC dominates the top 10 of this list, having 7 of 10. Florida’s 91 schools from the all-time list has 39 schools that are not majors. Still 52 of the majors schools is pretty good, but it does inflate the total.

BCS schools:

Note that Big Ten teams schools average more different majors per school than SEC schools do, flipping the other list on it’s ear. In the overall list, the Big Ten does not start out #10, they start out #2 with 3 in the top 10, compared to 1 in the top 10 for the SEC.

Let’s check teams played on the road:

Neither conference has teams high on the overall list here, with Vanderbilt being #35 on the all team list, but what’s notable here is Florida dropping right off the map. To be fair to them, they have a lot of “neutral” site games at Jacksonville or Tampa so I’ll include neutral site games and exclude bowls (SEC being big on netural site games anyway):

Florida is still low, but Michigan is real interesting. It seems they’ve entertained a lot of big names at home. Also interesting is the number of weaker programs toward the top of the list. It could be expected, but interesting still.

Finally, let’s go with away or neutral non-bowl games against current majors:

Well, I’m not sure what any of this tells us. Again, teams that have regular games against big name schools are going to be at a disadvantage in this sort of list. Georgia, Florida, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue, South Carolina and Kentucky (off the top of my head) have regular games against BCS schools and aren’t going to have as much variety when measured by majors. Since 1970 (the original date used), Michigan has played 20 major schools on the road or at a neutral site (non-bowl), Florida has played 22. Georgia has played 16. None of those schools has played that weak a non-conference schedule, but show poorly on that list.

In the end, I’d have to say there are better ways to measure non-conference scheduling than a list like this.

Some Big 10 schools never played a 1-AA (FCS) team until recently. For their easy games they loaded up on lesser conferences like the MAC which is also in the midwest.

B10-2 Ohio St.?

How dare you.

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(Similar sources for the other Big Six BCS groups. It’s all in the OP.)

I don’t have a lot to add to this conversation (I could go through each school by hand and check, but I won’t) but I often use this database when trying to get college football won-loss records.

An interesting feature is that once you choose a school and time period, and get a listing of records, you can click on an opposing school on that list and it will give you game-by-game scores and what not. Furthermore, from there, you can click on the opposition in a particular game/year and get that team’s complete season rundown for that year.

  1. You don’t need to go through them all and check, click on the link I gave and it has all the detail you need.

  2. The site you gave is not complete and likely won’t be correct in all places.

  1. I liked your linked site. i just included mine as a good source for data.
  2. I don’t see that the site is incomplete, with the following exceptions:
    2A) In the early years there were opponents that no longer exist
    2B) There were schools in the early days that are no longer big-time like Washington & Jefferson, so this database might be ‘over-complete’
    2C) 2010 isn’t in the database yet

Also, it has the weakness that it doesn’t separate FBS vs FCS

But to help answer the OP’s question, it allows easy hand counting. Pick a school and go through the list counting. Most opponent schools are easy: Michigan has always been big-time, so count it while Fordham would be ignored. You have to use judgment if an opponent is now big-time but was last played before they moved up, but I am not sure I can even find an example of that in the database. If we start from 1970, all you have to do is run through the list ignoring FCS schools.

I will run a hand count on Florida to see what I get.

Also 2D) no site is always correct. I say this because there are some rivalries where the two schools disagree on how many times they have played each other. But my site tries to give a link for each score.

For Florida’s hand count, I got 79 FBS opponents since 1970.

For Florida all-time versus current FBS opponents, I got 91.

The 12 picked-up schools are:[ol]
[li]Air Force[/li][li]Baylor[/li][li]Boston College[/li][li]Clemson[/li][li]Indiana[/li][li]Missouri[/li][li]North Texas[/li][li]Northwestern[/li][li]Oregon[/li][li]Texas[/li][li]Virginia[/li][li]Wake Forest[/li][/ol]I think those are the same results as your site.

That leaves the following as Florida answers to the OP about BCS schools never playing:
[ol]
[li]Arizona[/li][li]Arizona State[/li][li]Boise State[/li][li]Bowling Green[/li][li]Buffalo[/li][li]BYU[/li][li]Colorado[/li][li]Colorado State[/li][li]Connecticut[/li][li]Fresno State[/li][li]Idaho[/li][li]Iowa State[/li][li]Kansas[/li][li]Minnesota[/li][li]Navy[/li][li]Nevada[/li][li]Oregon State[/li][li]Purdue[/li][li]San Diego[/li][li]Stanford[/li][li]TCU[/li][li]Texas Tech[/li][li]Toledo[/li][li]UNLV[/li][li]South Florida[/li][li]Utah State[/li][li]UTEP[/li][li]Washington State[/li][li]Wisconsin[/li][/ol]

The site you gave is incomplete (you will note is says so no the pages). It took it’s information from James Howell’s excellent research for his rating system. James, however, wasn’t interested in schools that were “I-A” in years in which they played, therefore he purposely omitted some of their games. For instance, Florida State’s early years before becoming a university class team are not there. Michigan was NOT always big time and therefore some of their early games are also omitted. I doubt that any team is really complete, which suited James’ purpose, but makes queries like this questionable. There are games between teams that are now major opponents which are not there.

And yes, no site is always correct, but not neccessarily because of disagreements. No way you can more this much info (which is really a moving target) and have it correct.