# Which female candidate is your choice to beat Trump?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [July 2, 2019, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396 "2019-07-02T14:40:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
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Let’s say all of the male candidates for president die in a tragic campaign bus accident in rural Iowa tonight (I mean, holy shit, what are the odds they were all at the same poorly-lit intersection at the exact same time?!), and the only remaining candidates are Kamala Harris, Amy Klobuchar, Kirsten Gillibrand, Tulsi Gabbard and Elizabeth Warren. Marianne Williamson was out licking crystals in a teepee in the dessert and died when one got lodged in her windpipe, so she’s out too.

Which of them would you pick as having the best chance for beating Trump? I’m going to put up a poll in a minute, but I’m also interested in comments as to why you picked who you picked, and also who you think would be the perfect running mate for your nominee.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/2 "2019-07-02T15:32:55Z")

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I voted for Gabbard. She is a bit of a nutjob and possibly a Russian plant, but in a general election against Trump she would beat him handily. She is a young, photogenic veteran and political outsider who would attract Never-Trump Republicans, low-information Independents and disaffected Bernie voters, alonside the roughly 40% of voters who will vote for anyone with a “D” next to their name.

Not my ideal female candidate- that would be Liz Warren. I just don’t see how she’s able to beat Trump. He would just call her Pocohantas every day until most American voters see her as just another Rachel Dolezal.

Gillibrand has the voice of squeeky preteen girl and to the average voter that sounds like nails on a chalkboard. She wants to be the #MeToo candidate, but there is already a backlash against that movement and it’s a bit of a joke these days.

Klobuchar would make a fine Republican candidate for president. The Dems should nominate her if they really want to increase the Green Party’s vote share to historic levels on Election Day.

If Kamala Harris wants to make the election about reparations, forced busing and eliminating private health insurance, then she’d probably be beaten by Trump the worst out of all of them.

TBH, if you had included Williamson in the poll, I’d probably choose here. You think her legion of devoted fans is insignificant? These people are in every state and they are mostly suburban moms who vote often and influence others to do the same. And while the mainstream media may consider her a bit of a joke, she became a viral sensation on social media after the debates. That’s valuable. She’d also have the backing of her big shot friends like Oprah, Gwyneth Paltrow and the Kardashians. She is basically a leftwing Trump, and while that is certainly awful, in this day and age it might be a selling point.

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I would also choose Williamson. It’s possible she’s antivax, but when she speaks i feel so motivated.

I chose Gabbard. Too obscure to have a chance now, but against those women, with a smaller pool of candidates, she’s the man.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/4 "2019-07-02T16:07:54Z")

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Honestly, for me all five have merit, but I’ll I’ll go with Harris as a narrow favorite over Warren. She’s the right age, seems to have a sharp, analytical mind, probably is the best speaker of the bunch, has a policy record that I can mostly support, and can at least simulate empathy effectively, which is certainly more than one can say for our beloved current President.

> [@pjacks](#):
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> If Kamala Harris wants to make the election about reparations, forced busing and eliminating private health insurance, then she’d probably be beaten by Trump the worst out of all of them.

Agreed, but I suspect those positions will ‘evolve’ a bit as primary season grinds on.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/5 "2019-07-02T16:30:33Z")

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Warren and Harris are my favorites regardless of what happens at a poorly-lit intersection in Iowa. I’d pick Warren first, but I think Harris will be a stronger candidate again Trump, so she gets my vote in this poll.

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**Post date:** [July 2, 2019, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/6 "2019-07-02T16:53:21Z")

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> [@Twoflower](#):
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> Warren and Harris are my favorites regardless of what happens at a poorly-lit intersection in Iowa. I’d pick Warren first, but I think Harris will be a stronger candidate again Trump, so she gets my vote in this poll.

They’re my two favorites too. I’d really like Warren to **be** President, but like you, I suspect Harris might be the more deadly _candidate_ against Trump.

I’m thinking a Harris/Castro ticket might be the perfect Dem ticket.

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I’m only familiar with Warren and Harris. I would not vote for either of them, so it’s either write myself in or go third party.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/8 "2019-07-03T03:57:57Z")

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Best chance of beating Trump? I think Harris, barely, followed by a tie between Warren and Klobuchar.

If the question were my _favorite_ candidate, I would have said Warren (barely), followed by a tie between Harris and Klobuchar.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/9 "2019-07-03T04:15:43Z")

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I’d go with Gillibrand; she seems to be the likeliest to have a foreign policy, having previously lived and worked abroad. All the other Democratic female candidates seem to be entirely 100% about domestic policy.

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> …I’m thinking a Harris/Castro ticket might be the perfect Dem ticket.

I am leaning in the same direction.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/11 "2019-07-03T04:49:29Z")

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It’s funny how Warren is leading the poll yet I’m the first poster in the thread to actually say Warren is (definitely) my top pick. I interpreted this poll to be asking who _my_ choice would be among the female candidates to beat Trump. I didnt take it to mean who i thought was most likely. I love Elizabeth Warren. By _far_ the most substantively solid, policy oriented candidate.

ETA: ugh. Thats what i get for skimming the OP. I guess i need to change my vote to Harris.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/12 "2019-07-03T05:28:38Z")

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> [@pjacks](#):
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> If Kamala Harris wants to make the election about reparations, forced busing and eliminating private health insurance, then she’d probably be beaten by Trump the worst out of all of them.

This is not an accurate description of her campaign’s central message. It may be a right wing misinformation claim, but it is not an actual fact.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/13 "2019-07-03T05:31:26Z")

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I’d recommend taking a look at this when deciding which candidate best serves your interests;

> **[Political positions of the 2020 Democratic Party presidential primary candidates](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_the_2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primary_candidates)**
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> This page describes the stances held by Democratic candidates in the 2020 United States presidential election on a variety of policy issues (e.g. domestic and foreign issues). Only candidates still in the race during the 2020 Iowa caucuses are included.
> Candidates have been encouraged by organisations, namely Indivisible Project and Individual Action, to take a pledge of unity, known as 'We Are Indivisible'. This means supporting the eventual Democratic nominee, should the candidate's own nomi...

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/14 "2019-07-03T07:11:51Z")

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I dunno. Which one of them has the best upper body strength?

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I dunno. Which one of them has the best upper body strength?

🙂

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Warren comes across (at least to me) as very angry. That may do well in the primaries, but in the general election that would turn off a lot of voters.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2019, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-female-candidate-is-your-choice-to-beat-trump/836396/17 "2019-07-03T12:29:39Z")

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None of them have much chance against Trump, but Harris is black and might get more black turnout. OTOH she would spend a lot of campaign time backing away from whatever she said earlier, as in the “when I said Yes I would eliminate private insurance I didn’t understand the question” and “why didn’t you support forced busing” that are her break-out moments so far.

No matter who she picks for a running mate, it won’t help. So she might as well swing for the fences and pick somebody like Tammy Duckworth.

Regards,  
Shodan

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> This is not an accurate description of her campaign’s central message. It may be a right wing misinformation claim, but it is not an actual fact.

So? That will be the exact misinformation campaign that will be used by Republicans/Russia/Facebook trolls/Twitter bots during the general election, and she is frankly making their jobs easy lately.

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I’m thinking a Harris/Castro ticket might be the perfect Dem ticket.

This is craziness to me. Doubling down on identity politics against Trump of all people is the worst strategy imaginable. Yes, 2 white people on a Democratic ticket is too many, but none at all is suicide.

Harris/Buttitieg or Warren/Castro would be much more palatable to the average white voter.

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I don’t see Warren beating Trump. Gillibrand would have an uphill battle under the best of circumstances, and being at one percent in the polls is not the best of circumstances. Gabbard—just plain No.

I think either Harris or Klobuchar could beat him. I lean to Klobuchar, though I’m not sure how she gets out of the primaries… among other things she has a deft and pointed sense of humor which I think he’d have a hard time dealing with.

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