Which game is hardest to cheat at (NOT fix)

Trust me - there are any number of ways to cheat at Diplomacy, starting with “Flying Dutchmen” (pieces you surreptitiously add to the board during a game).

Note that in face-to-face play, moves are adjudicated by the players; “traditionally,” Austria reads the orders in Spring 1901, then England in Fall 1901, France in Spring 1902, and so on. A player reads their own orders first, to make it harder for that player to cheat by changing their orders after seeing everybody else’s.

people thought fishing was not easy to cheat at until they found people adding lead weights to the fish . (the winner is the guy with the heaviest total of fish caught) They had to start x -raying fish at big tournaments.

There are. I did target shooting for years, and remember competing at a pretty high level.

The sport comes with a rulebook stating a number of things. For example, before every match, my rifle was weighed by officials, because it had to weigh over a certain amount. The trigger pull weight had to fit within a certain parameter also. If my rifle passed the officials, it got a little sticker on the forestock indicating that it qualified for this competition, but not the next one, where I’d go through the same things again.

Rules also extended to your clothing and shoes, lest they give you some kind of unfair support. Your shirt, for example, could be only-so-thick. Other equipment, such as my shooting jacket and glove and sling, also had to conform to the rules. For the most part, the officials could tell if these things conformed when you checked in, and I do remember a few others being told to change their shirt, because they weren’t going to be allowed to compete in it.

There is no specific “your goal” in soccer. You play half of the game defending each goal. And a tampered ball would be quickly detected by both the other team and the refs.

Competitive fly casting doesn’t have that problem as there are no fish to catch, competitors are only going for distance and accuracy. Mostly though, the sport doesn’t have a cheating problem because the stakes are so small; cheaters would end up spending $2,000 to win $1,000.

Well, “diving” is faking injury (or a foul) in the hope of inducing incorrect officiating that improperly benefits your team.

In other words, cheating.

Ultimate is unique , they do not use referees even at the highest level. They call violations on themselves. They call it spirit of the game. Cheating is very looked down on and is very rare.

Golfers do the same thing. But it’s still possible to cheat in golf, regardless of the culture that strongly frowns on it.

The Other Waldo Pepper initially thought you were suggesting that shooting at the competitors in a running race would probably be considered cheating.

Perhaps Red Wiggler was thinking of Diplomacy played via an online server, at which it would indeed be hard to cheat.

I thought that he was referring to Diplomacy as played by actual leaders of nations, not the tabletop game that simulates it.

A runner can also deliberately block or impede another runner, to throw her off her pace or stride. This happened to a runner named Heather Lieberg, who won the 2019 Austin Marathon despite being blocked for most of the race by a former elite who had been banned for doping. Lieberg finally had to simply push her way past the other runner, who gave her a shove as she went by.

Covering your bib is another way to cheat in road races. A lot of marathons also hold half-marathons, concurrently and on the same course; the color of the bib designates the race a runner is competing. Covering your bib can cause your competitors to be unsure of which race you’re in, and thus whether or not they need to pay attention or chase you. The winner of the 2018 Cleveland Marathon was accused of this.

There’s also bib muling - hiring a faster runner to run with your bib, to earn you a qualifying time for another race; this is a common cheat to try to get into the Boston Marathon - and banditing, which is running a race without having signed up or paid for it. But both of those are outside the criteria of the OP.

Track races would be harder, but a runner could still cheat – start before the gun went off, leave the assigned lane too early (or at all), skip an obstacle in a steeplechase. It would be hard to get away with, as such would be fairly easily detected, but it is possible.

Out of curiosity, how does a thicker shirt help?

But it’s possible to cheat, right? That’s the question in the OP. Plenty of people would generally pay money for the sake of winning.

The question is what sport is the most difficult to cheat. I’m sure it’s rare but how possible is it?

I guess theoretically. You’re allowed to use any fly rod you’d like as long as it is of a certain length and you must you a specified manufacturer’s fly line which is laser etched with its weight and details. Conceivable, you could set up a factory somewhere to create counterfeit fly line after researching a way to create a fly line better than the one created by the manufacturer. You could also figure out a way to sneak in a longer than allowed fly rod by figuring out a way for the referee’s tape measure mis-measures your rod, but nobody else’s.

So it’s way more costly than spending $2k to win $1k. They wouldn’t have gone through all of the trouble to laser etch fishing line if there wasn’t a big problem before. Why only one manufacturer? It seems like you should be able to choose any string maker so long as it complies, like golf balls. It it because a given manufacturer sponsors the tournament?

Also, how does an alternate line give an advantage?

The caber is made for the event on site as part of the event from a local tree. Everyone uses the same caber. IDK what happens if it broke.

Perhaps it would be possible to foul/grease the caber grip for the next person, though to be both effective against the opponent, not harm your toss, and get away with it would be hard to do. Though it could take out a competitor, interrupt the flow of the game, but that would be more of a coordinated effort ‘fix’ then a personal cheat if I get your terms correct.

The spot that it may be easier to get away with cheating is that performance enhancing drug use is prohibited in any of the Scottish games including the caber toss but it is up to the judges to order drug testing.

I can tell that this is really important to you and that you find it upsetting for some strange reason. All quality fly line is laser etched with its name, weight and taper. Different weights and tapers have different qualities. By using the same fly line, it ensures that all competitors are using the same equipment, 3 weight fly line has very different casting qualities on a 3 weight rod than 12 weight fly line on a 12 weight rod. If they did not specify the brand taper and weight of the line, people would show up with all kinds of equipment and the competition would be a mess, comparing apples to oranges.

You are crazily off base, bro. I am legitimately curious about a sport that I was barely aware of until this morning. I’ve known a couple of avid fly fisherman who loved to explain their passion to me but I didn’t know about the competitive aspect.

Fighting has rules, or should!

Is there any sort of team structure to the caber toss? I can imagine a team having one guy who’s legitimately very good, who makes his throw, and then his teammate who goes after him greases up the log to sabotage the other team (and his own chances, but that doesn’t matter because his teammate has already racked up the points).