# Which grown-up characters had something that seemed unacceptably childish?

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**Created:** [December 13, 2015, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307 "2015-12-13T05:00:54Z")\
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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
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Sue Anne Nivens’s elaborate boudoir was, if not childish, kind of adolescent.

Les Nessman’sever-present band-aid (in a different location every time) didn’t exactly enhance his grown-up creds.

Batman runs around in animal jammies. Could he have issues?

Who’s the guy in AC-DC in a schoolboy uniform? Forty years on, it’s just kind of icky.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/22 "2015-12-13T22:13:17Z")

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Kojak had a lollipop.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/23 "2015-12-13T22:32:01Z")

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> Who’s the guy in AC-DC in a schoolboy uniform? Forty years on, it’s just kind of icky.

Lead singer Angus Young.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/24 "2015-12-13T22:50:09Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Lead singer Angus Young.

Lead guitarist. Lead vocals was Bon Scott followed by Brian Johnson. But, yeah, childish. But it’s AC/DC.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/25 "2015-12-13T22:51:09Z")

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Lucy Ricardo didn’t have any particularly childish belongings that I can recall but her trademark crying like a baby (“Waaaaaaah!!”) is uncomfortable now and, I would think, even back then. (After all, Ethel didn’t baby it up for Fred!)

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/26 "2015-12-13T22:56:55Z")

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> [@oara](#):
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> At the time, the holodeck seemed cool to me in principle, but I’d feel pissed off that they always used it for something lame and ordinary like being a western or playing cards or I can’t think of what else now. Like the writers wanted to have an ordinary sitcom instead.

TBF that’s Worf, Troi and Data.

Worf and Troi are aliens…so it’s not like they can be blamed for wanting to experience Earth westerns (It was Alexanders idea anyway i think)

And cards was Data wanting to play poker with …great scientists.? If i recall, didnt one of the holo characters say what a waste of time it was.

Kind of like a built-in way of the computer saying “Really?”

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/27 "2015-12-14T00:19:59Z")

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James Cagney’s [relationship with his mother](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXd5wziMxfs)in **White Heat**

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/28 "2015-12-14T00:25:43Z")

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> [@oara](#):
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> At the time, the holodeck seemed cool to me in principle, but I’d feel pissed off that they always used it for something lame and ordinary like being a western or playing cards or I can’t think of what else now. Like the writers wanted to have an ordinary sitcom instead.

If I want to keep going on the topic of aspects of star-trekery that disappointed me: I was a child who was into computers, and the idea that Data couldn’t speak in contractions was offensively stupid.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/29 "2015-12-14T00:27:19Z")

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George Costanza’s late lamented fiance, Susan Ross, owned a large doll collection. She would sleep with chosen dolls from her collection, including the particular one that looked like Estelle Constanza, George’s mom.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/30 "2015-12-14T01:39:07Z")

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> Batman runs around in animal jammies. Could he have issues?

Even more telling is the suit he sewed for Robin. Hell-o! :dubious: :eek:

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/31 "2015-12-14T02:21:27Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Even more telling is the suit he sewed for Robin. Hell-o! :dubious: :eek:

Alfred sewed both. Maybe he’s the Grey Eminence power behind the Bat-Throne!

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/32 "2015-12-14T02:30:23Z")

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Ray and Robert on everbody loves Raymond. Seriously creepy hold their mother had on them.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/33 "2015-12-14T02:41:53Z")

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A “Will & Grace” episode - I can’t remember the specifics, but Jack had gotten into trouble with a project, Grace secretly stepped in to help him out, and Jack (who was supposed to be a little over 30) was convinced Santa Claus had come to his rescue.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/34 "2015-12-14T03:37:56Z")

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Sebastian Flyte in _Brideshead Revisited_ had a teddy bear named Aloysius.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/35 "2015-12-14T04:00:39Z")

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> [@oara](#):
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> If I want to keep going on the topic of aspects of star-trekery that disappointed me: I was a child who was into computers, and the idea that Data couldn’t speak in contractions was offensively stupid.

I think it’s not that he _couldn’t_ use contractions, but that he was programmed to not use them. Dr. Soong said he wanted to create an android that was less human-like than Lore, so he gave Data no emotions, and I imagine he programmed Data to not use contractions for the same reason.

Having said that, he didn’t do a very good job, as we have seen Data slip up in the series before. Worf actually did a better job of not using contractions.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/36 "2015-12-14T04:08:29Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> I was always kinda disturbed by the holodeck in STNG. It’s the 23rd century, they’re flying around the galaxy in a starship, and the height of adult entertainment is LARPing?

Not only that. LARPing about the 18th century in the UK and the US.

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-grown-up-characters-had-something-that-seemed-unacceptably-childish/740307/37 "2015-12-14T05:21:01Z")

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> Alfred sewed both. Maybe he’s the Grey Eminence power behind the Bat-Throne!

Not in the original comics he didn’t (reference: “When Batman was Robin,” DC Vol 1, No. 226, 1955). Bruce Wayne learned to sew in the Sea Scouts and made himself an outfit like Robin’s when he was a teenager learning criminology from a police detective.

> **[Detective Comics Vol 1 226](https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Detective_Comics_Vol_1_226)**
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> "Batman: "When Batman Was Robin"": When the late detective Harvey Harris has an old Robin costume sent to the Wayne estate, Bruce Wayne tells modern Robin of how he created the costume Detective Comics #226 is an issue of the series Detective Comics...

I’d like to see a kid walk into a police station dressed like that and saying “Teach me everything you know!” today. He’d probably be shot as soon as he walked in the door. :eek:

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Archie Bunker had to have a Twinkie in his lunchbox every day.

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Charles Foster Kane had that sled. Forget what he called it…

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> Charles Foster Kane had that sled. Forget what he called it…

I’m pretty sure it was called “Marion Davies’s Vagina”

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