# Which hit single was most dependent on a sample?

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**Created:** [June 19, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745 "2019-06-19T15:32:51Z")\
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The aforementioned “I’ll Be Missing You” and “U Can’t Touch This” are two of the biggest hits that come to mind for me.

And I agree that samples can be wonderful and creative af (I think “Jump Around” is a creative mix), but those two examples strike me as quite lazy.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/22 "2019-06-19T19:35:34Z")

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> [@Slash1972](#):
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> Ice, Ice Baby.

Thread should have been closed right here.

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[Tone Loc’s Wild Thing](https://youtu.be/387ZDGSKVSg) rests heavily on the sampled Alex Van Halen drum roll riff.

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/24 "2019-06-19T21:29:49Z")

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What was the Beastie Boys song that ripped off Zeppelin’s, “The Ocean”?

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> [@The\_wind\_of\_my\_soul](#):
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> Personal opinion #1: I disagree, I think the sampling makes the song.
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> Personal opinion #2: I’m having so much fun learning new things in this thread that I kinda wish the question asked was not “which hit single was most dependent on a sample?” but simply “which hit single used which sample?”. Maybe the thread will go that way anyways.

Go try out [WhoSampled.com](https://www.whosampled.com/Will-Smith/Wild-Wild-West/)

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/26 "2019-06-19T21:38:30Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> What was the Beastie Boys song that ripped off Zeppelin’s, “The Ocean”?

[She’s Crafty](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tif1C6dwH6o). The Beasties had a soft spot for [Led Zep](https://ultimateclassicrock.com/beastie-boys-led-zeppelin-licensed-to-ill/).

ETA: Not mentioned in the article: The drum lead into [What Comes Round](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNfdgxUDEGA) is from Moby Dick. Not that Led Zep ever ripped somebody off…

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**Post date:** [June 19, 2019, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/27 "2019-06-19T21:58:17Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> \<snip\> Not that Led Zep ever ripped somebody off… \<snip\>

Heaven forfend. 🙂

Did the Beasties’ “You Gotta Fight (For Your Right)” or “Girls” have sampling in them?

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Winner and still champion even after 60 years: [The Flying Saucer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Saucer_(song)). It samples from 17 songs of the time, and reached number 3. Without the sampling, the song does not exist.

[Here’s the song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCrn6QXvHLg)

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^ Oh, no! that’s Dickie Goodman, who had some hits in the early '70s (like “Mr. Jaws”) using the same technique.

You’re a monster, **Chuck**! 😃

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**Post date:** [June 20, 2019, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/30 "2019-06-20T11:11:08Z")

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[Symphonies - Dan Black / Kid Cudi](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWWG75lLemA) samples the soundtrack to the film “Starman”.

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> Winner and still champion even after 60 years: [The Flying Saucer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Flying_Saucer_(song)). It samples from 17 songs of the time, and reached number 3. Without the sampling, the song does not exist.
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> [Here’s the song.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCrn6QXvHLg)

I wouldn’t call that sampling tho - not in the same sense as the aforementioned IceIceBaby and others that try and ‘hide’ the samples as their own -

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> [@simster](#):
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> I wouldn’t call that sampling tho - not in the same sense as the aforementioned IceIceBaby and others that try and ‘hide’ the samples as their own -

1. As mentioned, Ice Ice Baby’s riff is not a sample, it’s a plain ripoff of Under Pressure, but one that was played ‘fresh’.

2. ‘Sample’ does not mean ‘ripoff’.

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Just FYI: If we’re talking hip-hop, be aware that almost 100% of every hip-hop song ever produced is built on one of just ten major “break beats”: [https://www.whosampled.com/news/2010/04/29/the-10-most-sampled-breakbeats-of-all-time/](https://www.whosampled.com/news/2010/04/29/the-10-most-sampled-breakbeats-of-all-time/)

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Pretty much everything from WIll Smith.

Not just the aforementioned MiB, but also Wild Wild West and more.

Does anyone remember that song that was almost a beat-for-beat ripoff of “Ignition”, but didn’t sample it. All it did was mirror the tone almost exactly.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/35 "2019-06-22T14:32:05Z")

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Sample also doesn’t have to mean “another song”.

[Me So Horney - 2 Live Crew](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYqSgWFgGxM)

[Joker and Rafterman meet a prostitute - Full Metal Jacket](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKqDCFcIck)

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2019, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-hit-single-was-most-dependent-on-a-sample/835745/36 "2019-06-22T16:15:02Z")

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I don’t think the EMF song _unbelievable_ would have been much of a song without the Andrew Dice Clay samples.

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