# Which incumbent Do You Most Want to See Go Down in Flames?

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [October 18, 2008, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492 "2008-10-18T03:35:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2008, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/41 "2008-10-18T23:51:03Z")

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> [@scabpicker](#):
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> Ohhh, I’ll take both of them please. Never liked the former, and have an unintelligent 20$ bet on the latter (don’t ask).

At +12 McCain, it looks like it’s not happening this year. He probably could have managed it, but that would also have required doing a lot less in Missouri, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, Virginia, and Pennsylvania, which together are worth distinctly more, and are all leaning Obama to various degrees.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/42 "2008-10-19T00:43:14Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> I can’t find the link, but Mahoney has gone from 25 points up to 25 points down in less than a week, so this wish looks like it is going to happen.

Good. His opponent looks like a decent sort - at least he comes from one of America’s finest families. 😉

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/43 "2008-10-19T00:43:47Z")

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> [@Captain\_Carrot](#):
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> He’s not an incumbent. He resigned last year so he could rush to K Street, and it looks like his seat may well be taken by a Democrat next year.

Fuck him anyway. And Larry Craig. AND Rick Santorum. Yeah. Especially Santorum.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/44 "2008-10-19T02:43:42Z")

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> [@Chefguy](#):
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> 1. Trent Lott for having a bad hairpiece.

Hey! That hair was the only thing left standing after Katrina.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/45 "2008-10-19T03:36:45Z")

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Maxine Waters (HOR (D) CA) - corrupt and crazy (2 for 1 special)

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**Author:** ![Spavined\_Gelding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@Spavined\_Gelding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spavined_Gelding)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/46 "2008-10-19T03:46:05Z")

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Don’t forget the local asshat, Representative Steven King, Reactionary, Nativist, McCarthyite, representing the Sahara Desert slope of western Iowa. His Wikipedia entry is remarkable for its lack of spittle.

He will, however, be reelected. The Dutch Reform Church, fear of immigrant packing house workers, gratitude that Lincoln won the war and general insularity make the district so Republican that it might as well be on another planet. If there was ever a man who succeeded through wilful ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness he is Congressman King.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/47 "2008-10-19T07:11:53Z")

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Mine, 'cos I can do something about that.

Granted, Roy Blunt (MO-7) isn’t as obviously snarly & malaprop-prone as the OP’s, but he was DeLay’s whip, so I want him gone as a lesson to others.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/48 "2008-10-19T12:22:48Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> My top 5 (all Republicans of course)

You’re entitled to your list, and I wouldn’t fault you for your picks, but I find it curious that you can’t find any Democrats worthy to lose. I can certainly find some - and some Republicans as well.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/49 "2008-10-19T15:01:56Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> You’re entitled to your list, and I wouldn’t fault you for your picks, but I find it curious that you can’t find any Democrats worthy to lose. I can certainly find some - and some Republicans as well.

Fair enough. Let’s put Mahoney at #6 on my list. And even though he is not running this year, Rod Blagoejevich (D - Gov. of IL) is at the top of my list for 2010.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/50 "2008-10-19T16:25:53Z")

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> [@Spavined\_Gelding](#):
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> Don’t forget the local asshat, Representative Steven King, Reactionary, Nativist, McCarthyite, representing the Sahara Desert slope of western Iowa. His Wikipedia entry is remarkable for its lack of spittle.
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> He will, however, be reelected. The Dutch Reform Church, fear of immigrant packing house workers, gratitude that Lincoln won the war and general insularity make the district so Republican that it might as well be on another planet. If there was ever a man who succeeded through wilful ignorance and sheer bloody mindedness he is Congressman King.

I can’t imagine what you have against Steve King. According to this link, he seems entirely in the mainstream.

[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/19/114311/18/103/634507](http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/19/114311/18/103/634507)

For example:

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> I will tell you that if he [Obama] is elected President, the radical Islamists, Al-Qaida, the Islamists and their supporters will be dancing in the streets in greater numbers than they did on September 11 because they would declare victory in this war on terror…(Obama will) certainly be viewed as a savior for them…That’s why you will see them supporting him, encouraging him."

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/51 "2008-10-19T17:15:55Z")

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> [@BrainGlutton](#):
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> Norm Coleman. The Senate will be so much more entertaining with Al Franken in it! 😃

Saw the thread title, came to say just that. My sentiments exactly.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/52 "2008-10-19T18:25:40Z")

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According to my exhaustive research, Norm Coleman is the only person that Garrion Keillor actually hates. Says a lot.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/53 "2008-10-19T18:42:55Z")

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Jeff Sessions, the junior senator from Alabama. What a piece of shit he is. Not that it matters, though, as I think he’s running unopposed. But the dude was quoted as saying the KKK isn’t so bad, but changed his position when he found out some of them smoked weed. He’s rabidly pro-business anti-environment and the strongest proponent of torture in the senate today. Fuck that dude.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/54 "2008-10-19T19:15:33Z")

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“Borin’” Orrin Hatch. In office since 1977, he’s a Washington institution. He consistently toes the Republican party line and takes the most “conservative” (big business-friendly) stand on every issue while hiding behind the ‘family values’ smokescreen.

He wants to blow up your PC if you download music. And at the time his website was using pirated software.

> [@Wikipedia](#):
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> Hatch caused an overnight controversy on June 17, 2003 by proposing that copyright owners should be able to destroy the computer equipment and information of those suspected of copyright infringement, including file sharing. In the face of criticism, especially from technology and privacy advocates, Hatch withdrew his suggestion days later, after it was discovered that Sen. Hatch’s official website was using an unlicensed JavaScript menu from United Kingdom based software developer Milonic Solutions. Milonic founder Andy Woolley stated that “We’ve had no contact with them. They are in breach of our licensing terms.” Shortly after the publication of that story in Wired magazine, the company who runs Hatch’s website contacted Milonic to start registration.[6]
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> One year later, he proposed the controversial INDUCE Act that attempted to make illegal all tools that could be used for copyright infringement. According to many critics, this act would effectively outlaw the Internet and personal computers, giving unprecedented legal leverage to media companies.

He was 100% behind the Republican charge to impeach Bill Clinton in 1998, and jumped on the “Democrat=terrorist” meme

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> In 2006 Hatch gave a controversial speech to the Utah Senate, stating that terrorists across the world were "waiting for the Democrats here to take control, let things cool off and then strike again.

I hate his smug, concescending manner too.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/55 "2008-10-19T19:47:32Z")

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Michele Bachmann, for her beliefs about Un-American America.

Jean Schmidt, for shamelessly sucking Marine Corps cack while trash-talking a distinguished veteran of that service.

Norm Coleman, for just generally being a dickbag.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/56 "2008-10-19T20:11:24Z")

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I will add, Peter King, congressman from Seaford LI.

His support of bush’s war, claims that Iraq is 95% safe. That being in Baghdad is like being in Manhattan. The bastard will probably get re-elected anyways. LI is the only part of NY that is still McCain territory. Maybe a good thing we don’t become a state.

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**Post date:** [October 19, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-incumbent-do-you-most-want-to-see-go-down-in-flames/468492/57 "2008-10-19T21:07:32Z")

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> [@An\_Arky](#):
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> I’m a staunch Democrat, and I couldn’t agree more. God, what an asshole.

No one really likes Moran. But he’ll win until he’s knocked off in a primary.

> [@](#):
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> Is that district filled with halfway houses for sex offenders or something?

I was going to quote Jon Stewart, but it’s been done.

But “sex offender”? Isn’t that a bit over the top?

> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Maxine Waters (HOR (D) CA) - corrupt and crazy (2 for 1 special)

Waters really isn’t very bright.

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