# Which is Better: Star Wars or Star Trek?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 18, 2003, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076 "2003-05-18T18:14:33Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/81 "2003-05-22T19:35:25Z")

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> I am terribly, terribly sorry for Star Trek: Voyager. I personally inflicted it on the world as revenge for not getting an Evel Knievel stunt bike toy when I was 8 years old. I purposely designed Neelix to be nearly as annoying as Jar Jar Binks, so that everyone forget how annoying my boyhood hero Wesley Crusher was. I ordered Kate Mulgrew to do her most shrewish Katherine Hepburn imitation for the entire 7-year run.

And **tracer** doesn’t bear the _full_ brunt of the responsibility. After all, putting 7 of 9 in there (Jeri Ryan) in a skin-tight catsuit was my fault. So sorry. 😃

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/82 "2003-05-22T19:35:27Z")

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_And_ he’s dead!

Top _that_!

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/83 "2003-05-22T19:36:46Z")

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my previous post was meant as an add on to **kingpenguin** ’s words 'bout Gene…

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/84 "2003-05-22T19:38:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monstre \*  
> \*\*And **tracer** doesn’t bear the _full_ brunt of the responsibility. After all, putting 7 of 9 in there (Jeri Ryan) in a skin-tight catsuit was my fault. So sorry. 😃 \*\*

and I’m responsible for wussyfying the Borg.  
;j

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/85 "2003-05-22T21:06:49Z")

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Mace Windu would win. He’s one bad ass motherf\*\*\*er. It even says so on his lightsaber!

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**Author:** ![Monstre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@Monstre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monstre)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/86 "2003-05-22T21:46:40Z")

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You see, I’ve got this Bible verse memorized, that I like to say to a guy before I pop a lightsaber up his…

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/87 "2003-05-22T22:10:08Z")

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Star Wars has John Williams.

Game, Set, Match.

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**Author:** ![Terrifel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@Terrifel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terrifel)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/88 "2003-05-22T22:29:38Z")

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Star Trek has Alexander Courage… _and_ Jerry Goldsmith.

Checkmate. (3-D, natch!)

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2003, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/89 "2003-05-22T23:11:18Z")

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KidC…

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> Star Trek, otoh, deals with interesting scientific as well as philosophical questions.

Oh yeah? Like what? “Should I alter the subspace fluctuation frequency of the quantum distortion capacitors on the deflector dish to a phase variance of .04 or .05? Hmm… what a philosophical conundrum!”

Please. “Go Dog Go” has deeper philosophical questions than Star Trek.

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> Are we talking about the same scene here? The one where the Borg sphere has just gone through the time-travel tunnel and was bombarding the Earth from orbit?

Yup.

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> I am terribly, terribly sorry for Star Trek: Voyager. I personally inflicted it on the world as revenge for not getting an Evel Knievel stunt bike toy when I was 8 years old. I purposely designed Neelix to be nearly as annoying as Jar Jar Binks, so that everyone forget how annoying my boyhood hero Wesley Crusher was. I ordered Kate Mulgrew to do her most shrewish Katherine Hepburn imitation for the entire 7-year run.
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> There. Happy?

No. I want you on your knees, BEGGING for forgiveness! Goddamn, a crack in a black hole’s event horizon? What the heck is wrong with you?!?

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/90 "2003-05-24T02:17:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Terrifel \*  
> **Star Trek has Alexander Courage… _and_ Jerry Goldsmith.**

And James Horner, for the 2nd and 3rd movie.

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**Author:** ![tracer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tracer/32/20578_2.png) [@tracer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tracer)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-is-better-star-wars-or-star-trek/176076/91 "2003-05-24T02:21:30Z")

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Re: My sngle-handedly inflicting _ST:Voyager_ on the world:

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> \*Originally posted by SPOOFE \*  
> \*\*No. I want you on your knees, BEGGING for forgiveness! Goddamn, a crack in a black hole’s event horizon? What the heck is wrong with you?!? \*\*

Hey! When I first wrote that script, it was a **metaphorical** crack in the event horizon! It was a region where the gravity was weaker around the singularity. I described it being “like a crack” so that the numbskulls in the audience would have an idea of what the crew had to accomplish. It’s not **my** fault that Berman and Bragga made me hack out 2 minutes of dialog so they could fit in more scenes of Kes sitting around looking cute!

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