# Which long time red state might turn blue in November?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 15, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681 "2020-06-15T03:01:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![HMS\_Irruncible](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hms_irruncible/32/7394_2.png) [@HMS\_Irruncible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HMS_Irruncible)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/41 "2020-06-22T12:27:11Z")

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> [@ThisIsTheEnd](#):
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> PA, MI, WI. Get them back and you win. Secure MN. Go for FL.
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> Wasting time and money in AZ, GA, NC is like me sending love notes to Sofia Vergara.

What’s important is that these states are close enough to flip _if Trump doesn’t contest them_. If the Trump campaign has to spend money contesting states that were a lock in 2016, it consumes funds needed to contest the battleground states. Ask Hillary Clinton what happens when you don’t contest the battleground states vigorously enough.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/42 "2020-06-22T12:35:17Z")

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> [@blindboyard](#):
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> Highlight text, then click reply.

Thanks!!

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**Author:** ![ThisIsTheEnd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thisistheend/32/4713_2.png) [@ThisIsTheEnd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThisIsTheEnd)\
**Post date:** [June 23, 2020, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/43 "2020-06-23T23:57:28Z")

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Right, so Trump has to contest AZ, GA, NC and he will. Biden doesn’t.

What was her campaign manager’s name again? Oh yeah, Mook.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/44 "2020-06-24T12:51:22Z")

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Well, FWIW, Amy Walter and Nate Silver both say things are looking bleak for POTUS in the Electoral College: [US election 2020: The electoral map just keeps getting worse for Trump | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/23/politics/trump-2020-electoral-map/index.html)

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/45 "2020-06-24T12:54:55Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> > [@blindboyard](#):
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> > Highlight text, then click reply.
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> .  
> Thanks!!

Appears to work for the nested quotes as well.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2020, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/46 "2020-06-24T12:58:08Z")

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Long way to go yet.

If, say, three highly rated pollsters find a 7-point-or-more Biden lead in late September in at least three of these four states — North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan — then I’ll start to breathe a LITTLE easier.

But I’ll still be anxious.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-long-time-red-state-might-turn-blue-in-november/855681/47 "2020-07-03T15:31:47Z")

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The GOP worries they may be losing Florida seniors: [Florida coronavirus: Anxiety over Trump's chances with senior voters increases as the virus spreads | CNN Politics](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/03/politics/florida-senior-voters-trump/index.html)

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