# Which movies are "missing" from IMDb's Top 250 movies?

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In your humble opinion, what movies are not included in this list? (I know they didn’t qualify according to the rules, but which films are missing if this list was just a list of someone’s “250 Top Movies of All Time”?

> **[Top 250 Movies](https://www.imdb.com/chart/top?ref_=nv_wl_img_3)**
>
> Check out the top 250 movies as rated by IMDb users

I’ll start with a few.

Little Big Man (1970)  
Flight of the Phoenix (1965)  
Blow (2001)

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Airplane!  
Blazing Saddles  
Young Frankenstein  
Tootsie

Better they should have just left all comedies off the list.

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> [@Mangosteen](#):
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> In your humble opinion, what movies are not included in this list? (I know they didn’t qualify according to the rules, but which films are missing if this list was just a list of someone’s “250 Top Movies of All Time”?
> 
> [IMDb Top 250 Movies](http://www.imdb.com/chart/top?ref_=nv_wl_img_3)
> 
> I’ll start with a few.
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> Little Big Man (1970)  
> Flight of the Phoenix (1965)  
> Blow (2001)

well, Blade Runner should be in the top 10, not 135

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[In Bruges](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0780536/?ref_=nv_sr_1)  
[The Station Agent](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0340377/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)  
[Mystic River](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0327056/?ref_=nv_sr_4)  
[Last of the Mohicans](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104691/?ref_=nv_sr_1)  
[Sling Blade](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0117666/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)  
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Older movies are badly underrepresented; the people who rate them are young and aren’t interested in B&W or silent films (with a few exceptions).

So there’s  
_Duck Soup  
A Night at the Opera  
Bringing Up Baby  
The Bank Dick  
The Fatal Glass of Beer  
Best Boy  
The Book of Life  
Blancanieves  
Arthur Christmas  
Twentieth Century  
I Walked with a Zombie_

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The African Queen (1951)  
Arsenic and Old Lace (1944)  
The Conversation (1974)  
Dogma (1999)  
Dracula (1931)  
The Man Who Would Be King (1975)  
The Searchers (1956)  
The Three Musketeers (1973)

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[Breaking Away](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078902/?ref_=nv_sr_1)  
[The Cowboys](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068421/?ref_=nv_sr_1)  
[The Shootist](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075213/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)  
[Bonnie and Clyde](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061418/?ref_=nv_sr_1)  
[True Grit (original)](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065126/?ref_=nv_sr_2)  
[The Outlaw Josey Wales](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075029/?ref_=nv_sr_1)

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A Man For All Seasons (1966)

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> [@rowrrbazzle](#):
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> A Man For All Seasons (1966)

The Lion in Winter (1968) isn’t there either.

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> [@kunilou](#):
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> Airplane!  
> Blazing Saddles  
> Young Frankenstein  
> Tootsie
> 
> Better they should have just left all comedies off the list.

They also missed A Christmas Story (1983).

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Frankly I could accept all these mentions not being in the top 250. Seems to me it does a pretty good job.

For me:  
The Incredibles  
Princess Mononoke

Animated movies are not viewed as being sufficiently high culture - I disagree.

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The IMDb top 250 is pretty awful, IMHO. It tends strongly toward the recent and the juvenile. (I’m looking at you, Tarantino.)

It is a list you would expect to be compiled by guys living in their mama’s basement.

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> [@mr.jp](#):
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> Frankly I could accept all these mentions not being in the top 250. Seems to me it does a pretty good job.
> 
> For me:  
> The Incredibles  
> Princess Mononoke
> 
> Animated movies are not viewed as being sufficiently high culture - I disagree.

Princess Mononoke is no. 70.

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The Lion in Winter (1968) isn’t there either.

This and others appear to fall into a large zone of movies which are rated well enough (above 8.1/10), but not rated _by_ enough people to clear the list cutoff. Some movies on the list are actually rated lower, but have been voted by thousands more.

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> [@Spoke](#):
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> The IMDb top 250 is pretty awful, IMHO. It tends strongly toward the recent and the juvenile. (I’m looking at you, Tarantino.)
> 
> It is a list you would expect to be compiled by guys living in their mama’s basement.

Give your list. Top 25/50 at least.

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The IMDb list is so horrible it is not worth discussing.

Move on.

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- Eraserhead
- Jacob’s Ladder
- The Adventures of Baron Munchausen
- Young Frankenstein
- The Secret of NIMH
- Kick-Ass
- Birdy
- Fearless
- The Fisher King

And to replace movies that are there with better movies (not to imply that I think that these movies are themselves worthy of being in the top 250, but that they are better than the movies which are already there).

Shawshank Redemption -\> [Enemy Mine](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089092/)  
Matrix -\> [Avalon](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0267287)  
Godfather 1-3 -\> [The Connection](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2935564/)  
Scarface -\> [The Untouchables](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094226/)  
How to Train Your Dragon -\> [All Dogs go to Heaven](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096787/)  
V for Vendetta -\> [Nineteen Eighty-Four](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087803/)  
Django Unchained -\> [Hard Boiled](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104684/)  
Reservoir Dogs -\> [Sexy Beast](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203119/)  
Mad Max: Fury Road -\> [Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216651/)

I’ll try to add some more later.

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Give your list. Top 25/50 at least.

Give me a little time, I’ll see what I can do. I would have to compile the list from scratch.

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Additional movies:

- Somewhere in Time
- Vanilla Sky
- Queen Margot
- The City of Lost Children
- Blue Velvet
- Lost in Translation
- Being There

To continue with a list of better movies:

Forrest Gump -\> [Big Fish](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0319061/)  
The Sixth Sense -\> [Perfect Blue](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0156887/)  
The Grand Budapest Hotel -\> [Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamer](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088334/)  
Toy Story -\> [Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067992/)  
Up -\> [Wreck-It Ralph](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1772341/)  
Pan’s Labyrinth -\> [Jin-Roh](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0193253/)  
Barry Lyndon -\> [Dangerous Liaisons](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094947/)  
The Truman Show -\> [Punch-Drunk Love](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0272338/)  
Groundhog Day -\> [Meet Joe Black](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119643/)  
Guardians of the Galaxy -\> [Big Trouble in Little China](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090728/)  
The Graduate -\> [Harold & Maude](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067185/)  
Batman Begins-The Dark Knight -\> [Desperado](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112851/)  
Inglourious Basterds -\> [Machete Kills](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2002718/)  
Inception -\> [Primer](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/)  
Apocalypse Now -\> [Wings of Honneamise](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093207/)  
Metropolis -\> [Metropolis](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293416/)  
The King’s Speech -\> [The Madness of King George](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0110428/)

Caveats:  
[ul]  
[li]These aren’t necessarily movies that deserve to be in the top 250, they are just better than the movie indicated.[/li][li]They also aren’t necessarily the best movie of that theme, just the first one I thought of that seemed comparable which wasn’t already on the list.[/li][/ul]

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On the darker side, but also better than Up: [Mary and Max](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0978762/)
