# Which of the other admins are immune?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 18, 2005, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176 "2005-03-18T18:44:09Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2005, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/21 "2005-03-18T21:13:24Z")

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> [@Excalibre](#):
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> Tell me more about how your logical system works - I’m curious!

Ahhh. That isn’t how it works. Now that your interest has been piqued, you have to subscribe to the newsletter to get any more information - it is only $29.95 a year.

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/22 "2005-03-19T06:55:35Z")

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Since any of the “OMG the world’s going to hell because of TubaDiva” threads is as good as any, I choose this one to suggest that people shut the fuck up about it already. For fuck’s sake. Yes, it’s a horrible injustice. Yes, TubaDiva is the devil and the SDMB is completely unworthy of your trust. So go away and shut up.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/23 "2005-03-19T08:08:50Z")

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> [@Una Persson](#):
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> The software is intended for use by the average teen chat whore

I take exception to that! I am _not_ a teen!

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 8:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/24 "2005-03-19T08:20:32Z")

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And I’ve never considered you average, **Marley** …

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 8:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/25 "2005-03-19T08:33:45Z")

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Aww, shucks.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/26 "2005-03-19T11:34:03Z")

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> [@Ethilrist](#):
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> Am I the only guy who’s a little suspicious of any guests with “Blue” in their username these days?

I’m a little suspicious of recent guests with catchy two word usernames who seem oddly well aware of Board history and protocols. The late and unlamented **Zero Gravitas** springs curiously to mind.

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**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/27 "2005-03-19T11:57:03Z")

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QUOTE=Case Sensitive]I’m a little suspicious of recent guests with catchy two word usernames who seem oddly well aware of Board history and protocols. The late and unlamented **Zero Gravitas** springs curiously to mind.  
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Yeah, not to mention the latest dickwad who Lynn finally banned, **Matt** ,something or other! I’m surprised she let him go on for that long. I’m also surprised at what goes on here when you’re sleeping. Wow! How do you guys stay up all night and maintain your edge. Personally I find it hard sometimes to keep track of all the posts and the relationship of one to another. I find myself scrolling back a lot. Guess I haven’t got the right mindset yet.

Now, if you could only do the same thing with another asshat flamethrower **BR** , all would be right with the world.

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/28 "2005-03-19T13:24:26Z")

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Pot, kettle… :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/29 "2005-03-19T13:36:19Z")

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> [@Queen Tonya](#):
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> Pot, kettle… :rolleyes:

Who, me?

C’mon, think about it!!! 🙂

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**Author:** ![Xamatix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e274bd/32.png) [@Xamatix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xamatix)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/30 "2005-03-19T14:43:06Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> The claim in [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5948342&postcount=192) is that “there are aspects of administering this message board that nobody except **TubaDiva** knows how to do.”
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> Which of the other admins are above losing their admin rights for the same reason?

TD got hysteria and a suspension to calm the membership. Lynn got nothing. Not even the obligation to apologise to Aldebaran.  
There is nothing to question. They don’t accept their own rules why would they accept questioning their actions.  
I used to like America and Americans and I used to love this website. Now I say: Fuck you, arrogant American hypocrites. Remembrance of better times is not enough to keep me here. The SDMB of today is not worth one lousy dollar. I’m out of here on April 10, renewal date. I hope to see that many Americans abandon this website in protest for its hypocrisy and double standards. Those who do give us outside America a sign of hope. The SDMB has become a prime example for the sick mindset in America today. The Bush doctrine on mini-scale. Balatant wrong doings covered up and defended. Other opinions and ousiders: banned. Attacks on the Middle East normal. Defence of the Middle East by a Middle Eastern affected very personally by the American war and the American sick minds: banned. When he asked to delete a thread he made after the death of someone he loves, he gets insults of the admins in reply. Shows how personal their hate is for someone they don’t know. Because he is from the Middle East it goes far beyond banning him.

I expect to be banned because I say the truth. I hope they are so stupid to do it. Can’t harm me. It can only put emphasis on their hypocrisy again. I can’t wait to see that and the comments on it. A marvel to read.

I hate you America. I hate the American hypocrisy. I hate the American arrogance. I hate the American indifference to what their country causes in other countries. I hae the American soldiers in countries where they kill civilians. I hate the American mental lazyness. I hate the American voters who rewarded mass murderer by giving him an other term in the White House.  
I hate a

Greetings.

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**Author:** ![Xamatix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e274bd/32.png) [@Xamatix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xamatix)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/31 "2005-03-19T14:46:02Z")

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I’m not finished.

I hate all of that about you and your country and I am not even affected directly by America’s policies in the Middle East. Imagine how much you are hated in that part of the world. And you still are so stupid to not know why. Look at the posts on this website and learn something about your own fucking mental disease.

Greetings.

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**Author:** ![gommsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bcef8e/32.png) [@gommsn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gommsn)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/32 "2005-03-19T14:58:07Z")

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I know, I know, I’m new and I should stay out of The Pit! But I really have to say this!

I REALLY,REALLY hope you’re not Canadian!!!

There and now I’ll take my lumps!

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/33 "2005-03-19T15:02:31Z")

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> [@Xamatix](#):
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> TI hate you America. I hate the American hypocrisy. I hate the American arrogance. I hate the American indifference to what their country causes in other countries. I hae the American soldiers in countries where they kill civilians. I hate the American mental lazyness. I hate the American voters who rewarded mass murderer by giving him an other term in the White House.

I’ll file this under SDMB’s geopolitical influences. I have a glossy orange folder right here that’s been pretty empty… until now.  
:dubious:

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/34 "2005-03-19T15:51:11Z")

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> [@Xamatix](#):
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> Fuck you, arrogant American hypocrites. Remembrance of better times is not enough to keep me here. The SDMB of today is not worth one lousy dollar. I’m out of here on April 10, renewal date. I hope to see that many Americans abandon this website in protest for its hypocrisy and double standards. Those who do give us outside America a sign of hope. The SDMB has become a prime example for the sick mindset in America today. The Bush doctrine on mini-scale. Balatant wrong doings covered up and defended. Other opinions and ousiders: banned. Attacks on the Middle East normal. Defence of the Middle East by a Middle Eastern affected very personally by the American war and the American sick minds: banned. When he asked to delete a thread he made after the death of someone he loves, he gets insults of the admins in reply. Shows how personal their hate is for someone they don’t know. Because he is from the Middle East it goes far beyond banning him.
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> I expect to be banned because I say the truth. I hope they are so stupid to do it. Can’t harm me. It can only put emphasis on their hypocrisy again. I can’t wait to see that and the comments on it. A marvel to read.
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> I hate you America. I hate the American hypocrisy. I hate the American arrogance. I hate the American indifference to what their country causes in other countries. I hae the American soldiers in countries where they kill civilians. I hate the American mental lazyness. I hate the American voters who rewarded mass murderer by giving him an other term in the White House.

:rolleyes:

Yap, yap, yap. Jesus Fucking Christ, **get over yourself**. You and Aldebaran are two of the whiniest, bitchiest, most pathetic assholes that ever shambled out of their own castles of inflated self-importance and sat in front of a computer. In the 5 years I’ve been here, there has been no one quite as irritatingly dumbshit as you and your “close friend” Aldebaran.

> [@Xamatix](#):
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> I’m not finished.

Not yet, but hopefully soon.

> [@Xamatix](#):
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> I hate all of that about you and your country and I am not even affected directly by America’s policies in the Middle East. Imagine how much you are hated in that part of the world. And you still are so stupid to not know why. Look at the posts on this website and learn something about your own fucking mental disease.

More yapping.

You serve no useful purpose on this message board. You post on here almost exclusively to bitch about the Administration of this Board, and to bitch about the evil ugly Americans, somehow missing the point that a large majority of this Board is in fact in opposition to the US policies in the Middle East. But hey, there’s no hate like blind hate, right?

The SDMB Staff do welcome dissent as to its policies and procedures - otherwise, there’d be about 200 or so people banned over the last unpleasantness. But there’s a difference between dissent and destructive behaviour.

Your sole reason for joining this Board appears to be to cause trouble, distract from conversations where intelligent adults are posting, act as a front for your “friend”, and to otherwise reduce the quality of life of the Members of this community. By my count, at least 21 of your 24 posts on this Board are to bitch about “Aldebaran, History’s Greatest Martyr”. You are destructive to this community and you increase ignorance with nearly every post you make. You also show no signs whatsoever of changing your same screeching note. I can see no earthly reason why you remain a Member here.

I hope you and Aldebaran can find a home that is happy to allow you sit and bitch and sulk and fume about the Great Satan in Clouds of Sulphur SDMB, the war-criminal Staff Admins here, and all those evil, ugly American butchers that run around here every day committing atrocities against the entire damn planet.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/35 "2005-03-19T15:57:46Z")

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Burlesque Belgian goes Bananas.

I _love_ this place.

and Americans. 😃

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**Author:** ![The\_Raven\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@The\_Raven\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Raven_1)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2005, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/36 "2005-03-19T16:08:16Z")

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For crissakes, I can’t fathom why you’re still here… Why don’t you jump on one of your little buddy’s fine Arabian chargers and go six feet under with him, if you’re not already there.

I find it highly notable that the Middle East is the world’s primary provider of oil, some of which gets made into rayon, orlon, and other stretchy polyesters. 'Course, there’s Egyptian cotton too. All fit for a King…

-Rav

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**Author:** ![emarkp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@emarkp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emarkp)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/37 "2005-03-20T16:25:37Z")

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So Ed Zotti/Cecil has responded [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5967763&postcount=675) and confirmed the original assertion. Specifically:

> [@Ed Zotti](#):
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> You may say: So what she was sorry? Anybody who did something like that in real life would get fired. Maybe. However, there were other considerations. The first, and I may as well be frank about this, is that Tuba is pivotal to the operation of the SDMB and the SD website generally. I pay her a modest stipend; in return she takes care of a long list of tasks that would eat up all my time if I tried to do them myself. (I know this because I used to do them myself, and they ate up all my time.) Many of them involve what amounts to SDMB customer service. They are not the sort of thing you can delegate to a volunteer; hiring someone off the street to do them would be prohibitively expensive.

So now that we know that **Blue Ruin** ’s comment was essentially correct ( **TubaDiva** isn’t essential from a technical point of view, but is from a practical one), I’ll re-ask the question:

Who else is so indispensible that he/she won’t lose admin rights even if SDMB policy is violated?

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**Author:** ![PunditLisa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/4af34b/32.png) [@PunditLisa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PunditLisa)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/38 "2005-03-20T17:51:44Z")

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> [@Xamatix](#):
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> I hate you America. I hate the American hypocrisy. I hate the American arrogance. I hate the American indifference to what their country causes in other countries. I hate the American soldiers in countries where they kill civilians. I hate the American mental lazyness. I hate the American voters who rewarded mass murderer by giving him an other term in the White House.
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> I hate a

For a minute there, I thought your head exploded.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/39 "2005-03-20T19:28:40Z")

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> [@PunditLisa](#):
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> For a minute there, I thought your head exploded.

Is that Slim Whitman, I hear?

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**Author:** ![Cheesesteak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cheesesteak/32/3694_2.png) [@Cheesesteak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheesesteak)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2005, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-the-other-admins-are-immune/295176/40 "2005-03-20T19:44:30Z")

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> [@emarkp](#):
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> Who else is so indispensible that he/she won’t lose admin rights even if SDMB policy is violated?

In the business world people “violate policy” every goddamn day without being fired. If you fired everyone who, in the heat of the moment, violated some policy, you’d be turning over your staff every couple of months. Every two weeks with your sales force.

A manager, a GOOD manager, will look at the extent of the violation, the potential consequences, the potential for recurrence, and the value of the worker, and _decide_ on a course of action. That is exactly what happened here, and I have no doubt that if Tuba did something like this again, she’d be out on her ass.

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