# Which of these cocktails have you had?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 14, 2015, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032 "2015-05-14T14:08:22Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/41 "2015-05-14T21:04:30Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Those who said daiquiri, fess up: did you have one prepared like they say? That means no banana.

IIRC, last one I had was raspberry but I have no idea how it was prepared.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/42 "2015-05-14T21:06:41Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Six people have had an Aviation cocktail? Where are you people finding bars that stock creme de violette?

San Francisco. Just follow the tech hipsters. Their bars have everything …including the contents of your wallet.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/43 "2015-05-14T21:20:16Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Six people have had an Aviation cocktail? Where are you people finding bars that stock creme de violette?

The Golden Moon distillery in Golden, Colorado makes a fantastic one. If you get out this way I’d highly recommend it.

I’ve had a fair number of those cocktails and we make variations of most of them in my tasting room. I’d make more but we can only serve liquors we make and there is only so far I can stretch what run can do.

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Yeah, I was thinking that, too. The gimlet is an odd omission. I don’t drink much in the way of cocktails, but gin and tonic and (gin) gimlets are my summer standard, along with the occasional gin greyhound. (I dunno…something about gin and warm weather speaks to me, much like I associate most any kind of whiskey with cooler weather.)

[Gin Rickey](http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink3792.html) isn’t on the list either. Maybe it’s too old school.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/45 "2015-05-14T21:29:17Z")

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I’ve had about 50 of them, probably more. I’m far too lazy to look up the ones I didn’t recognize to see if I’ve had them under another name.

> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Six people have had an Aviation cocktail? Where are you people finding bars that stock creme de violette?

It’s hardly an really odd thing to stock any more. At least one bar in my town has it, and (like another poster said) it was all over San Francisco when I was there a couple weeks ago. The [Rothman & Winter](http://www.alpenz.com/images/poftfolio/violettefacts.htm) seems to be the most ubiquitous brand.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/46 "2015-05-14T21:33:24Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> [Gin Rickey](http://www.drinksmixer.com/drink3792.html) isn’t on the list either. Maybe it’s too old school.

I’ve only seen it ordered in and around DC.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/47 "2015-05-14T21:38:28Z")

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Also, I don’t know if you need to maintain [del]Tom[/del] John Collins and Gin Fizz as completely separate categories.

> [@Skywatcher](#):
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> IIRC, last one I had was raspberry but I have no idea how it was prepared.

I mean: that drink is not really sugary and never frozen. That’s the original definition which I’ve never had, and I think most customers expect the modern type except maybe in “serious” bars. The original daiquiri is essentially a caipirinha or maybe a less orangey Margarita with white rum instead of tequila.

Also note the first “i,” which has become rather optional in modern pronunciation.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/48 "2015-05-14T21:44:01Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Those who said daiquiri, fess up: did you have one prepared like they say? That means no banana.

Yes. If I’m having a cocktail, it’s the classic preparation, not the bastardized sugary shit they call cocktails nowadays.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/49 "2015-05-14T21:48:27Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Also note the first “i,” which has become rather optional in modern pronunciation.

How modern? In some 50 years, I don’t recall ever having heard it pronounced otherwise than DACK-er-ee. But then I’ve never had one, either.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/50 "2015-05-14T21:53:54Z")

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I’ve had about 80% of these. Favorites are caipirinha (caipiroska, whatever), sidecars, Clover Club (oh yeah…) Sazerac, old-fashioned, and two that aren’t listed: Pimm’s Cup punch and Daisy. Although a Daisy is basically a highball Sidecar…

It’s fun to try to get these in dive bars where they specialize in rum and cokes. Leads to some interesting conversations with bored bartenders as we attempt to cobble together something imbibable with available stock.

At home I often like a riff on the caipir-whatever using Myers Dark, lime juice (or muddled), brown sugar, and Angostura. Sometimes with a fizz to make it tall, sometimes not. 😃

I refuse to order things with names like “Sex on the Beach.”

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/51 "2015-05-14T22:19:15Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> Six people have had an Aviation cocktail? Where are you people finding bars that stock creme de violette?

Ordered it at least once, at the Matchbox in Chicago, I believe, and have made it at home.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/52 "2015-05-14T23:50:24Z")

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I think 38, plus we happen to be drinking negronis as I type this.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/53 "2015-05-14T23:57:47Z")

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Sixteen, and like others add also the Pimm’s Cup. Still makes me feel like I slacked off during my prime drinking years.

OTOH I have to agree with **Elemenopy** , I’m not ordering Sex on the Beach or Between the Sheets. Really.

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**Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/54 "2015-05-14T23:59:03Z")

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Btw, is the Hemingway special the same thing as a Hemingway daiquiri? I assumed so.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/55 "2015-05-15T00:16:37Z")

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I’ve tried 23 out of the list; one year during grad school I tried to sample as many possible cocktails as possible, but I got tired of them after a while.

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Remember, these are just the cocktails the IBA **uses for competition**. So Pimm’s Cup really doesn’t fit. Neither does any binary drink.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/57 "2015-05-15T00:34:00Z")

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Is a vodka martini not a popular drink? 😕

Just out of curiosity, how does one go about patenting (or copywriting) a drink?

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> [@DCnDC](#):
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> You mean you weren’t inundated with orders for “Mary Pickfords” and “Porto Flips” nightly? 🙂

I have to admit a Mary Pickford sounds pretty good.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/59 "2015-05-15T00:38:28Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Hipster bars. I’ve never ordered one, but I have sipped off someone else’s, same as Sazerac.

> [@wevets](#):
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> San Francisco. Just follow the tech hipsters. Their bars have everything …including the contents of your wallet.

> [@Oredigger77](#):
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> The Golden Moon distillery in Golden, Colorado makes a fantastic one. If you get out this way I’d highly recommend it.

Okay, I guess maybe I hung out at too many dive bars.

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**Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/which-of-these-cocktails-have-you-had/720032/60 "2015-05-15T00:40:07Z")

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Too late for an edit.

I take it a VM is a binary cocktail?

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